# A change to iNaturalist fonts

**URL:** <https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909>\
**Category:** News and Updates\
**Tags:** web, android-app, seek\
**Created:** [May 29, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909 "2024-05-29T17:37:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eyekosaeder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/eyekosaeder/32/66699_2.png) [@eyekosaeder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/eyekosaeder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/21 "2024-05-29T20:17:03Z")

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> [@tiwane](#):
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> I advocated for Comic Sans, but got vetoed. 🤷‍♂️

Comic Sans is temporary, Papyrus is forever!  
Funnily enough I hadn’t noticed any change even though I spend a few hours on the website every day. :D  
It only saw the difference after reading this post.

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**Author:** ![insectobserver123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/insectobserver123/32/36213_2.png) [@insectobserver123](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/insectobserver123)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/22 "2024-05-29T20:19:22Z")

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I think the old font was better, this font makes italics look more like cursive, making scientific names significantly less readable in my opinion. I can still tell what they say, but unfamiliar scientific names take slightly longer to read (adds up when looking at many obs in a day), and I wonder if this would create issues for people with visual impairments?

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**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/23 "2024-05-29T20:41:44Z")

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The new one is smaller (and prettier) but I have to keep reminding myself - still on iNat - it just looks … different.

First problem is with German Umlauts in this comment - very broken  
[https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/11194093](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/11194093)  
From Jan 2016 - so perhaps it was always broken, and not due to the changed font?

But works just fine on the taxon page  
[https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/58960-Plantago-coronopus](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/58960-Plantago-coronopus)  
Which is odd - shouldn’t it be **consistently** wrong, or right?

Krähenfuß-Wegerich  
That double S has also tripped up the display in the comment

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**Author:** ![naturesarchive](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/naturesarchive/32/10450_2.png) [@naturesarchive](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/naturesarchive)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/24 "2024-05-29T20:57:58Z")

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I like it so far, which is surprising because UI/UX research shows that a high percentage of people dislike _any_ change at first. The research I’ve seen sometimes attributes it to loss aversion or change aversion. Some of those studies are fascinating - they control for changes in both directions (i.e. one group starts on A and changes to B; another group starts on B and changes to A) and both groups are equally supportive of their baseline and equally annoyed by the change.

Of course, there are bad changes, too. But I mention this because I’ve lived through some UI changes in my professional life where we literally reverted a change because of the negative feedback, only to have to un-revert it when even more people were upset with changing back. Fun times!

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**Author:** ![jasonhernandez74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jasonhernandez74/32/33615_2.png) [@jasonhernandez74](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/jasonhernandez74)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/25 "2024-05-29T21:04:01Z")

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I’m just glad it isn’t MS Mincho.

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**Author:** ![eyekosaeder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/eyekosaeder/32/66699_2.png) [@eyekosaeder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/eyekosaeder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/26 "2024-05-29T21:07:39Z")

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> [@DianaStuder](#):
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> First problem is with German Umlauts in this comment - very broken  
> [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/11194093](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/11194093)  
> From Jan 2016 - so perhaps it was always broken, and not due to the changed font?

Weird. I’m German and have all the trivial names set to German and I haven’t noticed any bugs with umlauts aside from that instance you linked to. So I’d agree with that it likely wouldn’t have anything to do with the font change.

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**Author:** ![eyekosaeder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/eyekosaeder/32/66699_2.png) [@eyekosaeder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/eyekosaeder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/27 "2024-05-29T21:11:45Z")

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Oh. I kinda like that font. Haha

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/28 "2024-05-29T21:20:55Z")

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> [@DianaStuder](#):
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> From Jan 2016 - so perhaps it was always broken, and not due to the changed font?

Potentially. I believe it’s one of the observations we imported from iSpot, so it might be due to iSpot’s original formatting.

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**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/29 "2024-05-29T22:16:41Z")

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It does look like that.

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**Author:** ![millapede](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/millapede/32/74626_2.png) [@millapede](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/millapede)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/30 "2024-05-29T22:18:49Z")

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I’ve been wondering this for a while stumbling across some of the observations with old formatting – did iNat acquire/combine with similar apps in its early days besides iSpot? How did that work, if you don’t mind me asking?

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/31 "2024-05-29T22:24:06Z")

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I’ll respond in a message as it’s not related to this thread.

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**Author:** ![raphetnature](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/raphetnature/32/14419_2.png) [@raphetnature](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/raphetnature)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/32 "2024-05-29T23:39:09Z")

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I use the web version on a Samsung tablet, and the text is blurry on the on the info and suggestions view of all observations, on the identify page.

How it should looks:

 ![Screenshot_20240530-111530_Ecosia](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/3/5/35b23268ab752d88515466ca41982a8b8f63b692.jpeg)

How it looks on my device:

 ![Screenshot_20240530-111502_Ecosia](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/3/d/3de418f0cc8bdd2d4e32f30b5c174ec5cfe807c8.jpeg)

Even if I zoom the text is still blurry.  
For now, I notice this problem only when clicking on an observation on the identify page on the info and suggestions view. The text on the annotations and data-quality views are net and clear.

I didn’t had this issue with the last font.

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**Author:** ![typophyllum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/typophyllum/32/5148_2.png) [@typophyllum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/typophyllum)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/33 "2024-05-30T03:02:21Z")

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In my recent journal posts the bold face headings are no longer bold face (difference hardly discernible).

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**Author:** ![silversea\_starsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@silversea\_starsong](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/silversea_starsong)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/34 "2024-05-30T03:02:37Z")

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My only gripe so far is that on many pages, the scientific name is bolder than the vernacular name (and I assume a similar case is reversed if you have scientific names set first).  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/7/2/729611d15c5e1f7603333bc87a77fe2ca8826d20.png)

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**Author:** ![scarletskylight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/scarletskylight/32/34437_2.png) [@scarletskylight](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/scarletskylight)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/35 "2024-05-30T04:08:54Z")

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No Papyrus, eh? ;-)

Or should I say _Cyperus papyrus_?

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**Author:** ![apseregin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@apseregin](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/apseregin)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/36 "2024-05-30T06:08:34Z")

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Yes, good point. I widely used bold font in long project’s posts to make them friendly, but now this difference diappeared. That’s truely sad.

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**Author:** ![upollo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/upollo/32/29443_2.png) [@upollo](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/upollo)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 7:08am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/37 "2024-05-30T07:08:37Z")

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I thought there was a difference today - now I know why. I like it, I think its more legible as it’s very slightly larger, and I don’t have any issues reading/recognising the bold or italic texts. And +++ for open source!

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**Author:** ![cigazze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cigazze/32/44330_2.png) [@cigazze](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cigazze)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/38 "2024-05-30T13:18:45Z")

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I like the change overall but I agree about the bold face not being discernible enough. Right now it looks like the bold face is Lato Medium (even with `font-weight: 700`, which _should_ be a bold face – medium is more like `500`) which is only slightly bolder than Lato Regular. Loading in Lato Bold (or even Lato Semibold, probably) would fix the issue.

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**Author:** ![maryah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@maryah](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/maryah)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/39 "2024-05-30T16:27:18Z")

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I don’t like it. I use reading glasses and find it harder to read.

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**Author:** ![hawkparty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/hawkparty/32/18694_2.png) [@hawkparty](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/hawkparty)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-change-to-inaturalist-fonts/51909/40 "2024-05-30T17:22:43Z")

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The font itself is fine but it appears to have thrown a lot of stuff out of alignment ever so slightly, which is causing me more problems than anything to do with the text itself. I use identify slightly zoomed out and now its very off center, I assume because the boxes are just a bit different sized now? Maybe needs a little more tweaking but is otherwise fine

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