Any Gardeners or seed savers here?

Oh wow! Have you gotten a chance to try the greens? I’m curious what they taste like?
I’d love to get seeds & I’d be happy to trade for em.

WOW! Those photos are beautiful, almost no one takes photos of the seedlings so these are very useful to me as a researcher. Fantastic Work!

Wow do you still have Angelica spp. seeds? and Campanula americanaum?

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Carissa macrocarpa fruit: no taste at all. It’s a shrub, evergreen.

Eriobotrya japonica: Flowering in winter. I can find seeds (kernels) at the present time. The fruits are ripening right now in my region and I know where I can get some. Wouldn’t it be easier if you bought fruits where you live?

Psidium cattleyanum: yellow fruits for this one. I have no seeds (and no flowers/fruits coming).

Talinum paniculatum leaves: no taste (just like grass?), but interesting for health. Eaten raw or cooked.

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The snakes, raptors, and foxes around our property would eat voles … if there were any around. This may be why my gardens don’t seem to get too much damage from rodents or rabbits. Deer more than make up for it though. Fortunately, even a low split rail fence has kept the deer out of the kitchen garden. Sure, they could jump it, but may be reluctant to jump into a 25’ x 40’ enclosed space.

Strawberry Guava will not survive in your region. It is a tropical plant – considered a highly problematic invasive where it does grow.

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That’s what I was thinking of but among all the international grocery stores I visited, I never found Loquat fruits which you’d think would be more common :cry:.

No taste? even grass has a flavor but I assume you mean the flavor it has is mild or hard to describe?

I understand, my goal is to breed one with more cold hardiness. I don’t mind using a Greenhouse to keep it alive but also to eventually help it transition it’s offspring towards more cold hardiness. So far I only have 3 kinds of Psidium guajava cultivars, Big & Small Yellow Mexican, Pink Guava & Thai Green/white Guava.
Getting Wild Guava genetics is vaulable for the adatpation traits! I need my plants to become savages that can fend for them selves, in other words I want them “Invasive” or to grow like weeds so I don’t have to spray them with pesticides & supply heavy fertilizers.

It never occurred to me to eat them. I have extra seeds if you want some, just dm me your address.

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It does, but it’s also very popular with the birds and squirrels. I’m going to get a bit more aggressive about collecting fruit this year.

That’s the one. It planted itself between our back fence and that of the neighbor to the north. I wasn’t particularly worried about it, since 1) it wasn’t damaging either fence, and 2) it wasn’t another cussed Common Buckthorn. (Seriously, if I had a time machine, one of my goals would be to locate the person or persons who decided to bring Rhamnus cathartica to Colorado, and convince them that this would be Bad Idea.)

Here’s the observation of my stray currant bush. Unfortunately, it isn’t blooming as profusely this spring; the bouncy weather has been playing playing havoc with a lot of things.

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There are weasels, hawks, and coyotes, but nothing I can do to encourage them, given that my garden is a rented plot at an allotment. I’m already courting danger by keeping perennials that allow voles to live under them rather than digging up the entire thing each year and dumping down newly purchased dirt to grow tomatoes.

I’ve saved penstemon, columbine, godetia seeds, mostly. The voles mostly leave those alone. I saved camas seeds in the past, but all 12 of the plants were destroyed this year.

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When it comes to Strawberry Guava, you don’t know what you’re saying! Here is a link to my observation of strawberry guava in Hawaii, where it is a major ecological problem: strawberry-guava (Psidium cattleyanum) from Waianae, HI. In that picture, the entire forest thicket you see is a pure stand of strawberry guava. It grows so densely that nothing else can grow there. This isn’t a useful “pioneer” species – it kills off and replaces whatever native vegetation might have been there.

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WOW! That’s Incredible & a mess too :sweat_smile:. Where is the Homo sapien in the ecosystem to prune & manage that? Shit could be super productive with better Light Access & harvesting.

Does anyone even do wild foraging in that area? Do they not know?

I agree, not in this state where it shades out too much (Including itself from being really productive). It’s desperately Begging for someone to prune it & graft other Guava cultivars onto it. All the pruning can be Chopped & Dropped for additional fertility.

No, unfortunately I don’t. I sowed those 9-10 years ago, the angelica never came back after I planted it out, and the bellworts are annuals and sort of disappeared after a few years, presumably not being successful at reseeding themselves. My gardening philosophy is to plant/seed as much native variety as possible and see what will adapt to my yard and stick around and these two didn’t. I’ve been surprised sometimes by what comes back and what doesn’t.

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My approach is very similar as well! I always save the survivors so they may continue!

Do don’t ever need to do that. Just plant native.

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Why not just create new “Native” Plants by Hybridizing them with “Invasive” to get best of both worlds?
The climate is changing & “Native” sometimes is not be best suited to our current climate.

No, It’s usually meh for one world and awful for the other.

But he only wants to play with altering nature to suit himself. He’s made that clear.

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You might be disappointed… domesticated crops that have gone feral can have fewer of the desired traits that were selectively bred into them. For example, this wild celery looks like the bits of domesticated celery that most people compost.

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Yea pretty much. Altho I also want more food for the other animals too!
I want to create Food Abundance, as that’s what my ecosystem should strive for!

Oh yes I know, in some cases wild genetics may bring in bad traits that need to be bred out. That wild celery may be used as a seasoning rather than a vegetable, great Find!

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I hate to return to the perennial topic of invasiveness, but a lot of feral crops where I live (Washington State) are extremely invasive. Himalayan blackberry and cutleaf blackberry started as crops, and we also deal with invasive wild carrots, fennel, red amaranth, and white mulberry, among others.

There’s a certain contingent of hippy do-gooders in Seattle, in particular, who like to guerilla-spread nonnative vegetables and trees in the hopes of providing greater food security to others. I do worry about this.

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It sounds like with your current strategy you have a chance of inadvertently creating ecosystems that have one or two sources of food prioritized for humans, while sacrificing hundreds of sources of food relied on by other species.

I understand at this stage this is mostly theory though, hard to predict what actually happens when you breed plants.

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