# Brambles.. Florida

**URL:** <https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229>\
**Category:** Nature Talk\
**Created:** [April 4, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229 "2020-04-04T10:22:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![alicemaryherden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/alicemaryherden/32/888_2.png) [@alicemaryherden](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/alicemaryherden)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2020, 10:22am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/1 "2020-04-04T10:22:24Z")

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[https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=RUFR80](https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=RUFR80)

I am confused: European Bramble Complex

There are 4 native **blackberries** in **Florida** , 3 species of which are native to Central **Florida** : the **Sawtooth Blackberry** , Sand **Blackberry** and Southern Dewberry. The Sawtooth and **Sand Blackberries** have a generally erect habit, but highly variable forms.

[http://naturecoast.fnpschapters.org/index.php?id=wild-places](http://naturecoast.fnpschapters.org/index.php?id=wild-places)

What is correct?

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**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/2 "2020-04-06T01:42:55Z")

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would you clarify your question? i don’t understand what you’re asking here…

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**Author:** ![alicemaryherden](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/alicemaryherden/32/888_2.png) [@alicemaryherden](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/alicemaryherden)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/3 "2020-04-06T13:50:31Z")

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Sorry… that is confusing!  
I am trying to figure out which bramble is correct in Florida.  
When I research European Bramble Complex it’s not in the United States.

Florida Native Plant Society state there are four native blackberries. 3 in Central Florida. Sawtooth, Sand, Southern Dewberry. There is nothing stating European Bramble Complex.

So the question should European Bramble Complex be replaced?

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**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/4 "2020-04-06T15:12:19Z")

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> [@alicemaryherden](#):
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> I am trying to figure out which bramble is correct in Florida.

i’m still confused about what you’re asking here. R. fruticosus is not native in Florida. so it would not be included in a native plant list for Florida.

if you are trying to grow only native berries only in your Florida garden, then yes, you should grow one or more of the plants in the FNPS list and not R. fruticosus.

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**Author:** ![lotteryd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/lotteryd/32/2490_2.png) [@lotteryd](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/lotteryd)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/5 "2020-04-06T18:13:56Z")

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If you are encountering brambles, a possibility in many areas is that you could see an invasive species instead of one of the native ones. I don’t know how likely that is in different regions of Florida, but best to label an observation as just Rubus until you have enough field marks to narrow it down between the various native and nonnative possibilities.

On the plus side, if you have nonnatives they can be just as tasty as natives. ;)

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**Author:** ![kiwifergus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kiwifergus/32/1904_2.png) [@kiwifergus](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/kiwifergus)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/6 "2020-04-06T21:15:56Z")

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> [@alicemaryherden](#):
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> should European Bramble Complex be replaced?

Where are you meaning by replaced? As a taxa suggestion in iNat?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/brambles-florida/11229/7 "2020-06-05T21:16:01Z")

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