# Can someone explain how this is the Community ID?

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**Created:** [August 16, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235 "2023-08-16T03:59:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![ItsMeLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/49beb7/32.png) [@ItsMeLucy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ItsMeLucy)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/1 "2023-08-16T03:59:41Z")

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Thank you in advance for your kindness.

I am a little limited currently so was trying to review my older “Needs ID” Observations and I am very confused by this: [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/132964295](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/132964295)

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**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:01am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/2 "2023-08-16T04:01:45Z")

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see [https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/taxon-swap-leading-to-formerly-research-grade-observations-being-reduced-to-needs-identification/44232](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/taxon-swap-leading-to-formerly-research-grade-observations-being-reduced-to-needs-identification/44232)

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**Author:** ![ItsMeLucy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/49beb7/32.png) [@ItsMeLucy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ItsMeLucy)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/3 "2023-08-16T04:10:55Z")

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I am not at all sure I can follow that particular discussion, but I think I understand that this particular taxon is currently muddly and requires patience, which is something I have in buckets. Thank you.

I did note at the tail end of that discussion there was some bit about “incarnata” and wildly the Observation to which I linked was identified _as_ incarnata, one of the subspecies seen here (the other being vanillae vanillae). I cannot differentiate either of course but the butterfly experts can.

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**Author:** ![chugbug111](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/chugbug111/32/25542_2.png) [@chugbug111](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/chugbug111)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 7:33am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/4 "2023-08-16T07:33:27Z")

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It seems the butterfly species has a new name. Agraulis vanillae and Dione vanillae. Wikipedia states Agraulis vanillae as the synonym. With two names present , the software choose Tribe Heliconiini, so it is ok. The two names are probably the same butterfly, but some curators need to tell the software one of the name is a synonym. I think that’s how it works. I’ve informed curator on a few occasions regarding plant name swap. Never tried before on butterfly. Have to determine which name is the legal one.

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**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/5 "2023-08-16T11:17:45Z")

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The original flag, once I found it, has a LONG and continuing discussion  
[https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/568513](https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/568513)

Patience you will need. Goes back to April last year.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/can-someone-explain-how-this-is-the-community-id/44235/6 "2023-10-15T11:17:55Z")

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