# Computer vision clean-up (archive) **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [October 18, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281 "2019-10-18T00:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![neontetraploid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/neontetraploid/32/1284_2.png) [@neontetraploid](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/neontetraploid)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/104 "2020-09-07T06:24:51Z")
White-browed Scrubwren has been appearing more and more as an erroneous ID for various birds. I’m not sure if it’s enough of an issue to put into the wiki but maybe worth keeping a look out for ---
**Author:** ![nicolasr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/nicolasr/32/7357_2.png) [@nicolasr](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/nicolasr)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/105 "2020-09-09T00:34:18Z")
I added Chaenomeles speciosa, it has a lot of erroneus id´s. The AI is confusing roses, begonias, euphorbias and passifloras with this species. ---
**Author:** ![stewartwechsler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/stewartwechsler/32/12579_2.png) [@stewartwechsler](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/stewartwechsler)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/106 "2020-09-09T19:36:19Z")
Nepytia phantasmaria misidentifications (Geometridae moths). Excuse the possible duplication, as I initially put this in “Bug Reports”, then melodi\_96 suggested I put it here. Currently possibly our most common moth in the region west of the Cascade Mountains of North America, though it is evidently an outbreak year. iNaturalist offers [N. canosaria](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/211007-Nepytia-canosaria) as their top ID for every one. iNaturalist NEVER both says [N. phantasmaria](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/334645-Nepytia-phantasmaria) is both “visually similar” and “seen nearby”. N. phantasmaria is a well marked species. Both species have two broad, black jagged lines, 1/3, and 2/3’s from the (dorsal side of the) base of the forewing, but only N. phantasmaria has a strong, black doubly forked vein line connecting those two jagged lines, as one can see on the linked species page images. ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 2:08pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/107 "2020-09-11T14:08:53Z")
[https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/55159-Clavariadelphus-occidentalis](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/55159-Clavariadelphus-occidentalis) is suggested to any _Clavariadelphus_-like funhi, while you can see the map in guides observations of it now all around the world. [https://www.inaturalist.org/guide\_taxa/79709](https://www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/79709) [http://mykoweb.com/CAF/PDF/Clavariadelphus\_occidentalis.pdf](http://mykoweb.com/CAF/PDF/Clavariadelphus_occidentalis.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/108 "2020-09-11T20:22:50Z")
The computer is confusing Asparagus setacea and Achillea millefolium. As a result, Asparagus setacea is everywhere! It’s everywhere! But it’s really not. (Except as a house plant, but I’m talking misidentified outdoor plants.) ---
**Author:** ![arboretum\_amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/arboretum_amy/32/2328_2.png) [@arboretum\_amy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/arboretum_amy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/109 "2020-09-11T20:33:11Z")
> [@sedgequeen](#): > > Except as a house plant People keep that nasty weed as a houseplant?! ---
**Author:** ![Star3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/star3/32/73028_2.png) [@Star3](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Star3)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:03pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/110 "2020-09-11T21:03:23Z")
Aesthetics are highly subjective. I don’t have one, but I can see the appeal. Out of curiosity, what makes you consider it a “nasty weed”? ---
**Author:** ![arboretum\_amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/arboretum_amy/32/2328_2.png) [@arboretum\_amy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/arboretum_amy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/111 "2020-09-11T21:07:52Z")
It’s very extremely difficult to remove in landscapes. Not only does it climb things, but it makes these little potato-y root tubers and if you miss any when digging it out, a new plant grows back. You have to destroy the whole area looking for them. But yeah I guess it would be controlled in a pot. Asparagus setacea is a mess, Barbara is right. I see every other species of Asparagus, horsetails, fennel, yarrow, some conifers, even a Coleonema… ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 10:24pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/112 "2020-09-13T22:24:00Z")
“People keep that nasty weed as a houseplant?!” Apparently so. Lots of photos show it in pots. At least those are easy to classify. ---
**Author:** ![arboretum\_amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/arboretum_amy/32/2328_2.png) [@arboretum\_amy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/arboretum_amy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/113 "2020-09-14T00:57:21Z")
I was surprised to see the ones in pots are correctly identified much more often than the ones in the ground! ---
**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/114 "2020-09-14T20:30:13Z")
2 posts were split to a new topic: [How many observations are needed before a taxon makes it into the Computer Vision training package?](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-observations-are-needed-before-a-taxon-makes-it-into-the-computer-vision-training-package/16278) ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/115 "2020-09-14T22:57:51Z")
Kind of a name problem. Asparagus setaceus is Common Asparagus Fern. Asparagus officinalis is Wild Asparagus, although it is also the cultivated species. I think the “Common” helps Asparagus setaceus get mapped everywhere (though it’s frost sensitive). The “Wild” may encourage people to think A. officinalis can’t be the name for what they recognize as the cultivated plant even when it’s growing wild. Not sure there’s a solution, but I think these common names are part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![igor117](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/igor117/32/37925_2.png) [@igor117](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/igor117)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/116 "2020-09-15T15:41:05Z")
I’ve just added related topic: [https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/auto-ids-of-gastropods-are-completely-useless/16315](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/auto-ids-of-gastropods-are-completely-useless/16315) Though it’s not the case of few separate taxa, but rather most gastropods. Especially annoying and common wrong auto-suggestions are Helicina orbiculata, Monacha cantiana, Helicella itala, Mesodon thyroidus, Arianta arbustorum, Theba pisana, Praticolella, but if to fix them then simply something else wrong will show up. ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 9:49pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/117 "2020-09-15T21:49:30Z")
(I am hurt) Perhaps the potted ones got the right name because they were, actively cultivated, the way people use the word outside iNat. But yes I can well imagine that gone feral it would be a **nasty** weed. ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 10:04pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/118 "2020-09-15T22:04:02Z")
Trachyandra is currently blooming around Cape Town. iNat is determined to offer various northern hemisphere options, that I have never heard of. They then show up on the distribution map as lonely onlies. Bog aspodel? Not. ---
**Author:** ![arboretum\_amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/arboretum_amy/32/2328_2.png) [@arboretum\_amy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/arboretum_amy)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/119 "2020-09-15T22:31:46Z")
> [@DianaStuder](#): > > (I am hurt) I wasn’t referring to the wild Asparagus in South Africa. You know far more about your truly wild and native specimens than I do, of course. I speak of the miss-applied computer-vision suggestions all over the world. It seems that the ones I found in the “needs ID pool,” that is, not marked as captive even if they were captive, were more often grossly incorrect—yarrow, fennel, dogfennel, horsetails, various conifers, rosemary, the list goes on—than the ones already marked captive. Those marked captive were more likely to be the real deal or at least something else in the genus, although still with plenty of mistakes. I can brainstorm a few reasons why this might be, including - new users who rely a lot on computer vision also tend to rely on other people to mark their captive plants captive, so a lot of the captive pool has had a second set of eyes on it already - some people who keep houseplants do know what their plants are called - wild asparagus diversity is huge, but there’s only really 4ish species that are very popular in cultivation, so if the person was certain the word “asparagus” was in the common name somewhere, the pool of species to choose from is smaller. ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/120 "2020-09-16T16:11:08Z")
Not worth trying to fix, but I’ve run into it a couple times now. The computer vision labels piles of rocks as “elephant seal”. Not a bad choice, really. ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/121 "2020-09-20T04:38:45Z")
The majority of Usnea longissima photos are other species of Usnea. It’s so bad I’m sure the computer vision can’t be accurately trained. Of course, there are other species labeled Usnea longissima, mostly Alectoria species, but also Ramalina menziesii, Ramalina farinacea, Bryoria, and others lichens, as well as the moss Isothecium stoloniferum. ---
**Author:** ![kmagnacca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kmagnacca/32/7212_2.png) [@kmagnacca](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/kmagnacca)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/122 "2020-09-20T23:28:19Z")
According to the Hawaii flora checklist, the invasive taxon here is Asparagus plumosus but was previously misidentified as A. setaceus for a long time. But now I see that iNat is proposing to merge them, based on POTW. ---
**Author:** ![arboretum\_amy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/arboretum_amy/32/2328_2.png) [@arboretum\_amy](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/arboretum_amy)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281/123 "2020-09-21T01:54:05Z")
I’m operating on the assumption that they are the same/going to be merged. If the powers that be change their minds, I’m going to be in trouble 😅 [Previous page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-clean-up-archive/7281.md?page=7)