# Cultivated observations showing on taxon map

**URL:** <https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [March 20, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879 "2020-03-20T00:34:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![rupertclayton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/rupertclayton/32/2745_2.png) [@rupertclayton](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/rupertclayton)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 12:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/1 "2020-03-20T00:34:37Z")

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When I view a taxon page such as _[Triteleia laxa](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/51085-Triteleia-laxa)_ the distribution map shows the aggregate of Casual observations plus RG and other Verifiable observations. For example, all the observations in Europe and on the east coast of the United States for this taxon are Casual/Cultivated and show in the taxon map.

Unchecking “Verifiable observations” makes the RG/Verifiable observations go away, but keeps the cultivated ones. Checking “Verifiable observations” shows both.

Strangely, if I uncheck “Observations w/o Media”, that does hide the cultivated plants. It seems the behavior has been this way for some time, but I’m sure it used to work as expected. There’s a [thread here](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/explore-map-doesnt-show-both-wild-and-non-wild-points-at-the-same-time) about a similar issue in the past.

Verified for website in Firefox and Chrome on Mac.

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/2 "2020-03-20T01:04:08Z")

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> [@rupertclayton](#):
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> show in the taxon map.

By “show” what do you mean? I see states and countries like New York appear if I have checklists toggled on, but not individual observation dots.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/8/8e67fa0dddf3fbc6c553c231a0c6147e52754d0f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rupertclayton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/rupertclayton/32/2745_2.png) [@rupertclayton](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/rupertclayton)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/3 "2020-03-20T17:41:34Z")

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For me, the taxon page shows Checklist Places, Verifiable Obs and Obs w/o Media by default. Here’s what I see when I zoom out. All the observations in the eastern US and in Europe are cultivated.

 ![Screenshot 2020-03-20 10.36.27](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/f/f60e1b9689c6c04d96b85d4bc7630585ac8c27ff.jpeg)

The only way to hide the cultivated observations (which do all have images) is to uncheck “Observations w/o Media”. This seems like a bug.

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/4 "2020-03-21T01:37:51Z")

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Ah OK, you’re correct. We’re looking into this.

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**Author:** ![rupertclayton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/rupertclayton/32/2745_2.png) [@rupertclayton](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/rupertclayton)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/5 "2020-03-24T21:51:44Z")

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Any luck figuring this bug out? I keep tripping over it when I expand the location map for an observation to compare its location with other iNat observations for that species. In that context you don’t get the option to choose which layers to see, so all the casual observations show up as well.

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/6 "2020-03-25T00:53:48Z")

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Yes, we’ve figured it out and are working on a fix.

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/7 "2020-04-01T18:18:57Z")

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OK, we did some rejiggering and there is now a captive observations toggle for taxon page maps:

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/5/55130a3efe2935ed47db24aed9f9c1a6ccce5e0e.jpeg)

So you can turn the captive/cultivated layer on and off.

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**Author:** ![rupertclayton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/rupertclayton/32/2745_2.png) [@rupertclayton](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/rupertclayton)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/8 "2020-04-01T19:30:13Z")

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Thanks! That does look better, and it’s helpful to be able to separately toggle on/off “Observations w/o Media” and “Captive/Cultivated”.

One suggestion though: Would it be possible to use a paler color for “Observations w/o Media” and/or turn them off by default? Right now they’re on by default and they draw the eye much more strongly than the regular RG observations. I assume that most people looking at a taxon map want to know where the species has been reliably observed by iNat users and that finding outliers is a minority use, so the dark brown color is rather misleading.

 ![Screenshot 2020-04-01 12.27.26](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/b/b71e9a82b245324d2bfacaca7f0ec4b3f8d13a63.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/9 "2020-05-11T00:02:10Z")

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Split this topic on May 11, 2020, 12:02am UTC

A post was split to a new topic: [Observation has photos but shows up under “Observations w/o Media” on map](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/observation-has-photos-but-shows-up-under-observations-w-o-media-on-map/12259)

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/10 "2020-04-01T20:24:30Z")

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> [@rupertclayton](#):
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> Would it be possible to use a paler color for “Observations w/o Media” and/or turn them off by default? Right now they’re on by default and they draw the eye much more strongly than the regular RG observations.

Observations w/o media shouldn’t be on by default. I just made a new account it shows:

![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/f/f7e7fdca37aaaa1b97720a95ec986391bb92306a.png)

The toggles are “sticky”, meaning that if you turn them on for one map, they’ll be turned on for other maps until you turn them off.

I’ll take a look at that observation you mentioned.

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**Author:** ![charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@charlie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/charlie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/11 "2020-04-03T02:16:58Z")

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Ooh, very neat. Will the colors eventually transfer over to the other maps (individual observation and ID page and such?)

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 2:18am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/14 "2020-04-03T02:18:48Z")

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As far as I know, we have no plans to do that.

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**Author:** ![charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@charlie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/charlie)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/15 "2020-04-03T02:44:27Z")

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If not I’d have a preference towards the captive organisms not showing on the ID maps even though I like them where they have different color. No biggie though.

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**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2020, 6:34pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/16 "2020-04-03T18:34:35Z")

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ID maps = the compare tool and computer vision suggestions?

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**Author:** ![charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@charlie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/charlie)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/17 "2020-04-06T20:15:26Z")

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I meant the little maps in [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify) as well as the observation maps.

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**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/cultivated-observations-showing-on-taxon-map/10879/18 "2020-05-11T00:03:20Z")

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Closed on May 11, 2020, 12:03am UTC


