# Disagreeing with a withdrawn ID doesn't change it from "Unknown" **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Created:** [November 14, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964 "2019-11-14T00:53:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joe\_fish](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/joe_fish/32/1235_2.png) [@joe\_fish](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/joe_fish)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/1 "2019-11-14T00:53:12Z")
Excuse the confusing title… In this example, the user IDed [this observation](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/35630646), and then the ID was withdrawn, so it was showing as “Unknown”. I subsequently added a different ID, which stated (without prompting me) that I was disagreeing with the already withdrawn ID, so it was staying as “Unknown”. Then I added the same ID a second time and it correctly moved the observation to that taxon. Is that the intended functionality? Not very intuitive. ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/2 "2019-11-14T01:18:42Z")
> [@joe\_fish](#): > > I subsequently added a different ID, which stated (without prompting me) that I was disagreeing with the already withdrawn ID You only get the prompt if your ID is coarser than the current ID, so you would get one if you added a Poritidae ID. Because you chose a different genus, that is automatically considered a disagreement. > [@joe\_fish](#): > > so it was staying as “Unknown”. Then I added the same ID a second time and it correctly moved the observation to that taxon. I can’t replicate this. My guess is that it was an indexing glitch. If you can replicate consistently, please let us know. ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/3 "2019-11-14T20:17:24Z")
With my slow internet, I either trust iNat to make the change. Or click refresh to force the change to become visible. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/4 "2019-11-14T20:26:10Z")
With my slow internet, I first see “…disagrees that this is Unknown”, but once the ID has taken it disagrees with the actual taxon name. So, maybe wait a bit for the DB to catch up? ---
**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/5 "2020-01-12T02:31:33Z")
Possibly part of / same issue as in the post (not the topic title): [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/36762084](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/36762084) Adding IDs to observations with no label (Unknown). ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/a/a0089b8e5ff7b033404c377a78cc43baf3a2a349.png) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/f/f0e0ceff19ffe08a8ef91185e0350ac816f733f7.png) This one is Unknown, but with a placeholder, “oaks”. The ID was withdrawn though. Adding an ID should not cause any sort of disagreement, but the ID says I’m disagreeing it’s oaks (_Quercus_): ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/e/e63b6180999d9399ac06b1c9674d2f16a2adc63e.png) ---
**Author:** ![Star3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/star3/32/73028_2.png) [@Star3](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Star3)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/6 "2020-07-26T09:26:57Z")
Yes, I too consistently see this behavior in Unknowns if I ID it, then withdraw or even **completely delete** the ID, then go back to add a different ID. ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/7 "2020-07-28T19:18:12Z")
Made a bug report here: [https://github.com/inaturalist/inaturalist/issues/2751](https://github.com/inaturalist/inaturalist/issues/2751) ---
**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-with-a-withdrawn-id-doesnt-change-it-from-unknown/7964/8 "2021-01-01T01:40:29Z")