# Himalayan Blackberry Confusion **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [July 8, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/himalayan-blackberry-confusion/24581 "2021-07-08T17:09:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 13
**Author:** ![deboas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/deboas/32/45_2.png) [@deboas](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/deboas)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2021, 12:47am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/himalayan-blackberry-confusion/24581/13 "2021-07-09T00:47:50Z")
I am not an expert on blackberries, and while I believe all of these blackberries can be correctly included in the complex, it would be great to see a cleaner solution. There are a few resources linked in the old Google Group thread that might be worthwhile looking at: [Some history of the Jepson Manual treatment](http://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/get_cpn.pl?87465&expand=1) [Taxonomic study indicating that _R. armeniacus_ and _R. praecox_ occur in W Oregon, while _R. bifrons_ not introduced to N America](http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1017/inp.2017.12) (!) [Another paper describing the taxonomic confusion](http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/full/10.4141/cjps-2014-402#.WfZROPkrLiw) [A paper listing 15 taxa of _R. fruticosus_ Complex that occur in Australia](http://aem.asm.org/content/74/17/5504.full) --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/himalayan-blackberry-confusion/24581)._