# How many votes needed to overturn and ID? **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [November 9, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103 "2022-11-09T01:45:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![victorengel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/victorengel/32/4645_2.png) [@victorengel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/victorengel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/1 "2022-11-09T01:45:41Z")
How many votes are needed to overturn a vote on an observation? I’ve searched but have not found a discussion that mentions this. I’m asking because there’s an observation [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6859991#activity\_comment\_e9dbf950-f83b-4f81-96ba-f1666e615c42](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6859991#activity_comment_e9dbf950-f83b-4f81-96ba-f1666e615c42) that currently has 3 vote for Corallorhiza and 6 votes for Bletia, most of which used to be Hexalectris, before the taxon swap. That’s a 2:1 ratio. Why is that not sufficient to fix the ID? How many votes are required? The Corallorhiza votes are by members who have been inactive since 2017. ---
**Author:** ![felix-nicholls](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/felix-nicholls/32/29498_2.png) [@felix-nicholls](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/felix-nicholls)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/2 "2022-11-09T01:49:05Z")
1. Apparently this post must have at least 5 characters. ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/3 "2022-11-09T01:49:25Z")
The standard is that more than 2/3 of the votes must be for species A before it becomes Research Grade. Maybe it takes that many to change this to Bletia, too. ---
**Author:** ![victorengel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/victorengel/32/4645_2.png) [@victorengel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/victorengel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/4 "2022-11-09T01:50:09Z")
We’re at 2/3. So we just need one more? ---
**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/5 "2022-11-09T01:51:17Z")
That is my understanding. (I may be wrong, of course.) ---
**Author:** ![egordon88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/egordon88/32/29204_2.png) [@egordon88](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/egordon88)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:58am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/6 "2022-11-09T01:58:58Z")
2/3 plus 1 is the math, I believe. Standard case is one maverick vs 3 agreeing. ---
**Author:** ![victorengel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/victorengel/32/4645_2.png) [@victorengel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/victorengel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/7 "2022-11-09T02:07:40Z")
Woohoo! Thanks for the vote. The confirmed your math. ---
**Author:** ![victorengel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/victorengel/32/4645_2.png) [@victorengel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/victorengel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/8 "2022-11-09T02:08:38Z")
Now we can go back to disagreeing over whether it’s spicata or arizonica. :) ---
**Author:** ![jasonhernandez74](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jasonhernandez74/32/33615_2.png) [@jasonhernandez74](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/jasonhernandez74)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/9 "2022-11-09T02:42:51Z")
> [@victorengel](#): > > Now we can go back to disagreeing over whether it’s spicata or arizonica Inevitably, there will be comments explaining in minute detail why it is obviously spicata X arizonica. ---
**Author:** ![victorengel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/victorengel/32/4645_2.png) [@victorengel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/victorengel)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/10 "2022-11-09T02:45:31Z")
Heheh - unlikely, since _H. arizonica_ is almost entirely self-pollinating. That said, until recently, it was considered a variety of _H. spicata_. ---
**Author:** ![cthawley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cthawley/32/1445_2.png) [@cthawley](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cthawley)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/11 "2022-11-09T03:16:27Z")
If you click the “About” button for the Community ID on any observation it gives you a pop up explaining how it is calculated and a detailed breakdown for that observation. Some of the content for that observation looks like: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/b/e/be37bf5c0642d2dbddbbe2b3bac8fda715ba6e81.png) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/how-many-votes-needed-to-overturn-and-id/37103/12 "2023-01-08T03:17:15Z")
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