How would you evaluate the contributions of pan‑taxa natural history documentation to the community?

How do practitioners of each branch of natural history documentation view people who cover all taxa?

I’ve started to doubt and question my own development path. Let me explain my situation first — it’s rather complex. The content on my account mainly covers birds, insects, Arachnida, and other invertebrate groups (Crustacea, Annelida, Nematoda, Rotifera, Gastrotricha, tardigrades, etc.); plants (weeds, shrubs, woody plants, green algae, charophytes, mosses, and more); fungi (agarics, molds, lichens, powdery mildews, rust fungi, etc.); plankton (ciliates, diatoms, etc.). Protozoa, slime molds, fish, amphibians & reptiles, bacteria (cyanobacteria), viruses, and mammals appear occasionally.

Within the Natural History Documentation and flora&fauna hobby communities, apart from birdwatching, herpetology, entomology, and botany circles, there is another niche documentation direction with an extremely low presence: pan-taxa recording. Simply put, this means photographing every form of life; it usually spans four or more biological groups, even covering nearly all life forms, with erratic documentation styles and unconventional observational angles.

That said, as someone who pursues pan-taxa recording, my experience over the past few years has been consistently difficult. Perhaps due to my eclectic style or my overly broad focus, I sometimes struggle to concentrate my efforts, resulting in oversights and errors in identification. My approach has sparked some controversy within my local nature documentation circles. Critics claim I lack specialization in any single area, and some even suggest that my identification errors negatively impact data quality. Much like the wanderer, I can find some common ground when stepping into any single subcommunity — birdwatchers, botanists, insect photographers, and so on — yet no matter which group I join, I never feel a sense of belonging. I am a person with a strong desire to share my observations, but much of what I post is unintelligible to them. I was once harshly criticized and dogpiled by veteran experts before, and I do not wish to relive that experience.

I clearly remember every instance of dismissal from senior enthusiasts, even demands to delete posts or reminders. I wonder how many more rejections it will take before I’m truly broken.

I feel genuinely upset, and have begun to doubt my current approach. If I had the clout, I would launch a community group dedicated to pan-taxa recordists — but as an obscure, small creator with no prestige or influence, this goal is completely unattainable. I am deeply afraid of being invalidated by others. I even question whether this line of work holds any merit at all: what is the point of pan-taxa documentation? Is there a dedicated community for it? I feel profoundly isolated.

Supplementary Follow-up Note:

I don’t necessarily need validation from veteran experts; I only vented about how extremely niche this community is. This post was written on a whim amid a temporary surge of emotion. Long-term, I am actually very easygoing. Here, I merely described the rootless, adrift feeling that comes with this pursuit.

Of course, there is an unforeseen new path to resolve this predicament: establishing an independent pan-taxa community separate from the conventional specialized subgroups. This would be an approach that breaks free from the standard segmented hobby tracks.

Some people claim I wrote this post to rant in groups after being criticized or corrected, attempting to paint me as someone who cannot tolerate blunt, pointed feedback. As an outside observer, you may interpret this post through any lens you see fit—I have always been a divisive figure, and varied readings of my words are inevitable.

That said, if you infer I reject corrections on specimen identification, the reality is quite the opposite. From macro-level groups including birdwatching, botany, invertebrates, amphibians and reptiles, down to micro-level taxa such as SAR supergroup, cyanobacteria, and powdery mildews, I rely heavily on outside feedback and guidance. I wholeheartedly welcome input from specialists across all fields. Simply put, my role is capturing imagery; I cannot possibly identify every organism myself. The broader my scope of observation grows, the more gaps emerge in my knowledge, so oversights and mistakes are unavoidable.

To detractors and those who make snide remarks, I have this to say: please do not hesitate to point out any errors in my fieldwork practices or identifications—I will be deeply grateful for your input.

I also enjoy photographing and documenting nearly everything I see, and empathize with not having expertise in many of the taxa I document. I started off as a bird person, and still mostly think of myself as that, but I do get odd looks or mystified stares when I stop to take photos of plants, insects, weird galls, leafmines, etc.

I’ve also gotten some criticism from experts in certain taxa that expect me to have expert-level attention to detail and knowledge, based on how many observations I’ve made. I have noticed that I somewhat tailor my observations towards taxa with helpful, knowledgeable and patient experts.

I do it not just because I think there’s any intrinsic value in it, but because I enjoy it. It’s a deeply personal thing, and since I tend to be a bit of a loner I usually shrug off the criticism from (probably) well meaning but overly intense identifiers. But as to your first question, what would unite a community of pan-taxa documenters? Part of what makes the specific communities you mentioned work is that they unite a diverse group of people under one common interest. Many people in the community might not have anything else in common with other members. Without that central focus for all the members, I suspect that any community of pan-taxa group would be always be a looser community than one dedicated to a specific taxa.

Many observers in my country including me are also somewhat pan-taxa observers, usually excluding the microorganisms (dont have the equipment to photograph), an observer shouldn’t have to focus on smth in particular, as long as we find things interesting we should document it!
I myself have seen your observations many times before and theyre all decent-good quality observations, certainly not IDable to species sometimes but still thats good!
I cannot understand why someone would criticize you or even what they criticize you about

and speaking of ID errors, unless you giv super specific IDs without enough data to supplement it, I dont see any reason for criticism, bad IDs can be fixed and mistakes can be learnt from!

Keep observing man

Photograph and post what you want and what interests you. As long as you’re not posting poor photos or putting IDs on your records that are wildly inaccurate, I don’t see why it’s anyone’s business to complain.

There are some who object to the rest of us trespassing on their chosen taxon. I learn to recognise their names and to remember … stay away, ID conservatively, keep moving along. Plenty more among the CNC residue and pre-mavericks that I am currently clearing. Across ALL the (broad) taxa.

In the UK we even have a specialist group for Pan-Species Listers - see here:
https://panspecieslisting.com/my-lists.html

There’s already a huge “pan-taxa recording community” called iNaturalist so you don’t need to establish one. Other than that, i don’t know what this thread is about

This really highlights the classic trade-off between being a generalist and a specialist. The broader your scope, the more blind spots you inevitably have, which leads to more mistakes. For some strictly rigorous enthusiasts (though not necessarily within the iNaturalist community), my occasional misidentifications can be seen as messing with the quality of the community’s data.

I’m based in China, where users place a huge emphasis on data accuracy. Back in 2022, during the strict lockdowns, I was stuck at home and could only photograph local weeds. I uploaded a ton of records, but since I was just starting out with botany, I unknowingly uploaded a lot of incorrect IDs. Later on, this actually sparked some controversy and pushback against me.

In China, nature recording communities tend to be highly specialized and segmented. It’s quite rare to find a forum that covers pan-taxa without leaning heavily towards a specific niche.

On a side note: Do I really have that much of a presence? I can’t believe I got noticed, haha. I’m just a totally obscure user!

You’re totally right! I’ve kind of hit the limits of what a pan-taxa community can be. The thing is, besides just uploading my records, I hardly ever interact or learn from others who share the same broad interests. This is actually the first thread I’ve ever started here.

I’ve always been pretty chill about how people perceive my ‘pan-taxa’ approach. For the vast majority of branches—whether it’s birding, herping, or botany—the feedback is generally positive. It’s usually just a handful of extremely picky identifiers who can’t adapt to it. The reality is, the broader the scope you cover, the more blind spots you inevitably have, which leads to more errors. This can be exhausting for them and makes them feel like you’re lowering the overall data quality of the community.

I actually followed the exact same path as you! I started with birding back in 2016, and got into photographing insects that same year. By 2022, I had developed a preference for plants and fungi. I started using a microscope in 2023, and in 2024 I went on my first mammal safari. If conditions allow, I’m hoping to expand my focus to marine life or the intertidal zone in 2026.

If you are looking for acceptance of pan-taxa listing, iNaturalist is the place to be. Before iNaturalist it was very difficult to be a “100% naturalist” because it was just difficult to find communities of people to help learn a variety of taxa. There is the birdwatching community, the local botanist club, maybe even a couple people really into dragonflies and butterflies. But beyond that it’s hard to find amateurs interested in obscure taxa; most people who are passionate about them ended up somewhat sequestered in academia.

I know when I was a kid I wished I could find out the names of all the different insects I saw, like I could with birds, but the insect field guides I had were not nearly comprehensive enough to be satisfying. I had no idea of how to go further and considered it a lost cause until I discovered iNat. iNaturalist brought everyone together so that academic specialists across the world can advise local amateurs, and now many birders I know have gotten interested in documenting a wider variety of taxa.

Actually, as a platform, iNaturalist is just so massive. It accommodates both the hyper-specialists and the generalists. Apart from uploading my observations, I haven’t really participated in the forums or discussions. I’m absolutely certain that there are others out there who share my preferences, but we are so scattered that it’s difficult to have any meaningful exchange of experiences or receive guidance.

But once again, unless youre like oh hey Ive seen this plant before, and then again put a wrong ID, theres not much to be upset about. I understand users in China place emphasis on data quality but its nothing that cant be fixed, as long as you correct your own wrong IDs that is.

I often see your IDs on Chinese mantises and I have also seen your mantis observations :)

I have indeed corrected them; after all, a mistake is a mistake, and otherwise, they would just pile up. Moreover, I have left the Chinese user groups. To be honest, the atmosphere there is a bit chaotic, filled with sycophancy and mutual attacks. I was in there for a while, and it left me completely drained, both physically and mentally. The vocabulary and underlying mindset I employed in this post may have also been influenced by this “circle culture.” However, the reality is that everyone deserves an equal space to express themselves, has their own individual preferences, and should be open to corrections and guidance from others (provided it’s not malicious identification. After I left the group, some acquaintances told me that when they tried to correct others, they were met with personal insults and even malicious threats). Now, I don’t hang out in any circles; I just operate solo. I friendly accept guidance from relevant people in the field, and this state of freedom suits me best because it spares me from hearing malicious gossip.

Sometimes, if a debate escalates into a flame war, the person trying to make a correction is at high risk of being “doxxed” (开盒). In Mandarin, “开盒” literally means “to open the box,” but in internet slang, it refers to maliciously exposing someone’s real private information—such as their real name, ID number, phone number, home address, workplace, photos, family details, and even medical or consumption records—online, as if “unboxing” their life. The user who was threatened told me that due to my past oversights and errors, as well as grudges held by certain extreme users I corrected in the group, I am also facing the risk of being doxxed.

That is quite a toxic environment if I say so myself, Inat is not this serious, there shouldn’t be any superior person or lesser person, I get that some ppl are respected in their circles and all but this is not the same, very weird.

I’m glad you left, that is no place for a sane person and definitely not a learning environment

this sort of behaviour is unacceptable :anxious_face_with_sweat:
I wouldve suggested reporting but with such extreme thoughts, its better to not do anything
stay safe man

Rest assured, I’m safe. Even though I’m flying solo now, I still really hope the relevant forums in my country can have less hostility and become a better atmosphere.

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Actually, as a platform, iNaturalist is just so massive. It accommodates both the hyper-specialists and the generalists. Apart from uploading my observations, I haven’t really participated in the forums or discussions. I’m absolutely certain that there are others out there who share my preferences, but we are so scattered that it’s difficult to have any meaningful exchange of experiences or receive guidance.