# Identification annotations help

**URL:** <https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** question, annotations\
**Created:** [January 13, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494 "2025-01-13T18:28:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![nick2524](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/nick2524/32/18152_2.png) [@nick2524](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/nick2524)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/1 "2025-01-13T18:28:27Z")

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I have been adding annotations to various observations recently and was wondering what the correct annotation for Leaves would be in [this situation](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/37335346). The leaves are from the year before and usually have decomposed by that time. Is it correct to put colored leaves because they are present, just died off, or put no live leaves?

Thank you in advance!

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**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2025, 6:46pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/2 "2025-01-13T18:46:10Z")

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from [https://help.inaturalist.org/en/support/solutions/articles/151000191830-what-are-the-definitions-of-inaturalist-annotations-#Leaves-(within-Tracheophyta)](https://help.inaturalist.org/en/support/solutions/articles/151000191830-what-are-the-definitions-of-inaturalist-annotations-#Leaves-(within-Tracheophyta)) :

> - **Colored leaves:** At least one leaf or needle has late season or drought color
> - **No live leaves:** No breaking leaf buds or green or colored leaves or needles are visible

so if you know that the leaves are dead dead, and there are no leaves or breaking buds, then i would go with “No live leaves”.

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**Author:** ![sbasalaev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sbasalaev/32/47107_2.png) [@sbasalaev](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sbasalaev)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/3 "2025-01-14T03:29:12Z")

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I’m always unsure how to annotate coltsfoot since scales on the stem are technically also leaves.

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**Author:** ![sedgequeen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sedgequeen/32/1928_2.png) [@sedgequeen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sedgequeen)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/4 "2025-01-14T03:59:38Z")

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On the one hand, you’re right that bracts are modified leaves. On the other hand, most people use “leaves” only for well-developed leaves, i.e., non-bracts. In fact, Coltsfoot is famous for blooming before it has leaves (though it has bracts). So I think I’d describe a flowering Coltsfoot as “flowering, no live leaves” expecting that that would be consistent with what most other people would do.

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**Author:** ![nick2524](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/nick2524/32/18152_2.png) [@nick2524](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/nick2524)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/5 "2025-02-25T19:18:45Z")

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Hello again,

What would you all do with this? [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/263076434](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/263076434)

Would you mark it as flower budding, even though they won’t bud for several months?

Cheers!

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**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/6 "2025-02-25T19:28:05Z")

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i would annotate as flower buds. some future researcher might be able to calculate the difference between the average time of first bud annotation and flower annotation to figure something out… or something like that.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/identification-annotations-help/60494/7 "2025-04-26T19:28:28Z")

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