# iNaturalist Mobile App Development News **URL:** \ **Category:** News and Updates\ **Tags:** android-app, ios-classic-app\ **Created:** [October 14, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157 "2021-10-14T21:00:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/1 "2021-10-14T21:00:54Z")
_We just wanted to update you about recent development decisions made for the iNaturalist mobile app._ The iOS version of iNaturalist’s mobile app was introduced in 2011, and the Android version was released in 2012. Since their inception, these apps have been designed and written specifically for their respective platforms, which has led to significant differences in both design and functionality between the iOS and Android versions of the iNaturalist app. While there are advantages to having apps written in native code and design language to iOS and Android, there are also significant downsides. In iNaturalist’s case, these include: - Functional disparity, where some functionality is missing from one app or the other - Inconsistency in functionality, design, and workflows, which causes confusion - Complicated support, tutorials, and bug reporting - Specialized development - only a few people on our team can develop for these apps, and they also have other areas of responsibility, such as computer vision development In 2018 we released [Seek by iNaturalist](https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/seek_app), which we built with a cross-platform framework called React Native that targets both iOS and Android devices, and after a lot of discussion we’ve decided to go the same route with the standard iNaturalist app. Doing so will allow us to develop and release new features on both platforms more quickly, and give both iOS and Android users a nearly identical experience when using the iNaturalist app. We’re hoping this will also allow us to address more systemic problems with translation, accessibility, and stability that we have with both of the existing native apps. We’re also hoping this will make it easier for volunteer developers to contribute code, as the barrier to entry is a little lower for React Native. We think this puts us in the best position to support and improve the app in the long term. **What does this mean going forward?** From a user’s perspective, not too much for now. However, after one or two new functionality updates and various small additions, we won’t be developing the current native Naturalist iOS and Android apps any further, aside from fixing bugs with the available functionality. Behind the scenes, it’ll be a lot of design and coding work on our end, and we don’t anticipate releasing the new app publicly until after the 2022 [City Nature Challenge](https://citynaturechallenge.org/). If you want to submit mobile app [feature requests](https://forum.inaturalist.org/c/feature-requests/16) you may still do so, but it’s unlikely we’ll delve into them until then. And to be clear, this only affects the standard iNaturalist mobile apps - Seek by iNaturalist is completely separate. Thank you so much for your continued support. ---
**Author:** ![crellow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/crellow/32/2265_2.png) [@crellow](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/crellow)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/2 "2021-10-14T21:11:13Z")
Seems to make a lot of sense. Do you sense this is a good opportunity to overhaul the look and feel of the iNat app, or will you be just focussed on reproducing the current offering in the new platform for now? ---
**Author:** ![teellbee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/teellbee/32/15498_2.png) [@teellbee](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/teellbee)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/4 "2021-10-15T00:10:55Z")
No, it will be great. iOS app has long lacked key functionalities, limiting the expected performance of those iNat users. This will be a huge step . I sense whatever downsides will be hugely outweighed by the gains. ---
**Author:** ![physics](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/physics/32/22235_2.png) [@physics](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/physics)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/5 "2021-10-15T00:28:03Z")
Awesome news! I’m a software developer by trade who got into iNat earlier this year thanks to friends. I’ve been curious about potentially contributing to the app for some time, but it’s been awhile since I’ve focused on any mobile development - this move definitely sounds like it will make things more accessible for people like me overall. I’ll keep an eye out for the new app for sure :-) ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:35am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/6 "2021-10-15T03:35:19Z")
> [@crellow](#): > > Do you sense this is a good opportunity to overhaul the look and feel of the iNat app, or will you be just focussed on reproducing the current offering in the new platform for now? I can’t say too much but a change in look and feel is defnitely on the table. Because everything has to be started from scratch we want to make sure the core functionality works well and we’ll see what we can add from there. > [@brian\_d](#): > > I’d once more also recommend considering integrating reviewed photos (or a simplified version of them) I assume that is related to identifying observations? Probably not something that would be considered until a dedicated Identify feature is ever part of the app. > [@physics](#): > > I’ve been curious about potentially contributing to the app for some time, but it’s been awhile since I’ve focused on any mobile development - this move definitely sounds like it will make things more accessible for people like me overall. I’ll keep an eye out for the new app for sure :-) That would be awesome, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![agoranomos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/agoranomos/32/14607_2.png) [@agoranomos](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/agoranomos)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/8 "2021-10-15T07:25:31Z")
Welcome to the forum! If you’re considering contributing, I created [this post](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/contributing-to-the-inaturalist-codebase/26081) recently which might be a good starting point. ---
**Author:** ![charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@charlie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/charlie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/9 "2021-10-15T12:51:26Z")
This is exciting! So long as auto sync can still be turned off 😄 ---
**Author:** ![klodonnell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/klodonnell/32/224_2.png) [@klodonnell](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/klodonnell)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/10 "2021-10-15T16:28:38Z")
Great news! I’m looking forward to this! I think it will definitely minimize confusion. And as a personal bonus, it will free up some space on our BioBlitz instructions page 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ryanmkurtz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/ryanmkurtz/32/21697_2.png) [@ryanmkurtz](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ryanmkurtz)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/11 "2021-10-15T19:25:57Z")
I support this, I look forward to seeing the new app! ---
**Author:** ![Mercedes-Fletcher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/mercedes-fletcher/32/24784_2.png) [@Mercedes-Fletcher](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Mercedes-Fletcher)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/12 "2021-10-17T04:58:10Z")
I usually upload my observations through the iNat app but have found it so cumbersome to use that I don’t use it for anything else. I would absolutely use an app if it was more convenient and user-friendly though, so this is very exciting! I look forward to seeing what you come up with. :) ---
**Author:** ![ahospers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/ahospers/32/1483_2.png) [@ahospers](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ahospers)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 12:12pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/13 "2021-10-17T12:12:21Z")
I only use the mobile apps for uploading photos. Would be nice if the workflow for uploading observations can be reduced by two clicks. Now it is quite time consuming. It can be ten times quicker ! Just like adding locations on a world map [image|281x499](https://forum.inaturalist.org/uploads/short-url/s8A05el4QTL7JVweIUm1ZNhrer9.jpeg) And after 1. Selection and adding info in Step2 in Step3 the photos are blurred with the upload _Location informatie_ [Wiki Uploader - An iOS Application for Wikimedia Commons (wikiuploaderapp.com)](https://www.wikiuploaderapp.com/) Sourcecode [https://github.com/lyrk/Commons](https://github.com/lyrk/Commons) [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyudmylai/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyudmylai/) ---
**Author:** ![teellbee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/teellbee/32/15498_2.png) [@teellbee](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/teellbee)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/14 "2021-10-17T13:53:18Z")
Yes, I am pretty excited to see the results of this project. ---
**Author:** ![ahospers](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/ahospers/32/1483_2.png) [@ahospers](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ahospers)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/15 "2021-10-18T18:54:22Z")
And after 1. Selection and adding info in Step2 in Step3 the photos are blurred with the upload _Location informatie_ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/5/1/516295e18a7dff539b63fb4bb026fa5e460076ac.jpeg) So one can see which are uploaded to iNaturalist. I think the source code of this app is open source but not in REACT i think Sourcecode [https://github.com/lyrk/Commons](https://github.com/lyrk/Commons) [Wiki Uploader - An iOS Application for Wikimedia Commons (wikiuploaderapp.com)](https://www.wikiuploaderapp.com/) Although this app is not in “React” i thought the sourcecode was open…Sourcecode [https://github.com/lyrk/Commons](https://github.com/lyrk/Commons) and it prevents double uploading. Step1…Select the photos to upload Step2. Add info in some fields Step 3. Upload the files Step 4. Gray out, Green circle around the photos [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyudmylai/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyudmylai/) ---
**Author:** ![nikkorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@nikkorian](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/nikkorian)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 6:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/16 "2021-10-19T06:49:55Z")
Is there a reason you did not use the same functionality spec for the ongoing development, so both apps maintained the same functionality? ---
**Author:** ![vihaking277](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/vihaking277/32/15687_2.png) [@vihaking277](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/vihaking277)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 8:51am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/17 "2021-10-19T08:51:51Z")
> [@tiwane](#): > > The iOS version of iNaturalist’s mobile app was introduced in 2011, and the Android version was released in 2012. Wait, _ **the iOS app was released before the Android?** _ ![WHAAAT eagle](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/e/1/e13963038096a89d86bdfb3166a2c071ec353d30.gif) ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 5:55pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/18 "2021-10-19T17:55:38Z")
> [@vihaking277](#): > > Wait, _ **the iOS app was released before the Android?** _ At that point iNat was basically just kueda and loarie and all they had was an iPhone. Here’s a blast from the past: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MWPNmdiVY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MWPNmdiVY) > [@nikkorian](#): > > Is there a reason you did not use the same functionality spec for the ongoing development, so both apps maintained the same functionality? I’m not sure I understand the question - you’re asking why the Android and iOS apps are currently so different from each other? ---
**Author:** ![charlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@charlie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/charlie)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/19 "2021-10-20T02:21:41Z")
ooh i remember the 2011 app. Less functional and more buggy than the one now for sure, but i still miss the bread crumbs on the observation map of the unuploaded observations. ---
**Author:** ![vihaking277](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/vihaking277/32/15687_2.png) [@vihaking277](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/vihaking277)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/20 "2021-10-20T02:34:59Z")
Well, congrats for getting from two nature enthusiasts to a worldwide sensation! ;) ---
**Author:** ![silversea\_starsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7c8e57/32.png) [@silversea\_starsong](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/silversea_starsong)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/22 "2021-10-25T22:28:17Z")
Great news, I was really surprised to see how different the Android and iOS version were. The Android version is significantly superior at this point in time, and the iOS version lacks a lot of very basic functions. ---
**Author:** ![doruk912](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/doruk912/32/22586_2.png) [@doruk912](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/doruk912)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157/23 "2021-10-26T20:27:04Z")
This is great news! I am looking forward to this. Is there an approximate date for the launch? And also will you be using Crowdin again to translate the app like the current apps. I would like to help translate. [Next page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/inaturalist-mobile-app-development-news/27157.md?page=2)