# Let's Talk Annotations **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [March 9, 2019, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627 "2019-03-09T01:43:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![PdFuenteB](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/pdfuenteb/32/5015_2.png) [@PdFuenteB](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/PdFuenteB)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/243 "2020-02-10T14:36:13Z")
Maybe “body part” as unspecified could be helpful also. I think that “Fruit” and “Leaf” should be specified as “Unattached Fruit” and “Unattached Leaf” or something like that. Also Unattached Flower and/or Unattached Petal could be helpful? ---
**Author:** ![alexis\_orion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/alexis_orion/32/30298_2.png) [@alexis\_orion](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/alexis_orion)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:49pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/244 "2020-02-10T16:49:21Z")
true, somehow I missed it in the popup… ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/245 "2020-02-10T19:42:47Z")
Why unattached? I would often like to see (detailed) leaves, when the plant is not flowering, ---
**Author:** ![zabdiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/zabdiel/32/2460_2.png) [@zabdiel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/zabdiel)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:51pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/246 "2020-02-10T22:51:19Z")
> [@DianaStuder](#): > > Why unattached? I would often like to see (detailed) leaves, when the plant is not flowering, Presumably because that would come under “organism” (as would attached fruit). I would still like to see “none” added to flowering/budding/fruiting. > [@tiwane](#): > > I left out organism, thinking this should be used only if the evidence is something _other_ than the organism itself. Personally I think having organism included would be useful for anyone who wants to go back through their own observations and tag them. If you have a large number of observations tagging them all with something means you can easily find where you’re up to. It would also be useful if there was a collaborative effort to annotate all observations in a project to save people reviewing observations that have already been reviewed by someone else. ---
**Author:** ![zabdiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/zabdiel/32/2460_2.png) [@zabdiel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/zabdiel)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/247 "2020-02-10T22:52:37Z")
How about “leaf mine” (insects)? ---
**Author:** ![kiwifergus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kiwifergus/32/1904_2.png) [@kiwifergus](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/kiwifergus)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/248 "2020-02-11T08:30:59Z")
A gall is usually a plants reaction to the insect or an introduced pathogen etc, whereas a leaf mine is a specific type of herbivory. ---
**Author:** ![zabdiel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/zabdiel/32/2460_2.png) [@zabdiel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/zabdiel)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 9:53am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/249 "2020-02-12T09:53:36Z")
I was trying to suggest that both gall and leaf mine would be useful as separate annotations. I should have added “too” to make that clear. I’m assuming a use case will be annotating “needs id” observations so that people who are good at identifying those signs can find them. I often come across leaf mines when identifying. Mostly I can’t confidently identify but I could annotate them so someone who can id them can find them easily. ---
**Author:** ![JeremyHussell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jeremyhussell/32/118_2.png) [@JeremyHussell](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/JeremyHussell)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2020, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/250 "2020-02-12T15:53:34Z")
Fruit (plantae) seems insufficient, we’ll probably need Seed (plantae) to cover things like pinecones. Here’s a recent observation of mine which doesn’t fit any of the suggestions so far: [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/38488869](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/38488869) I’m not sure what to call that. Cache? Maybe the more general Predation Event? ---
**Author:** ![martinjung](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/martinjung/32/4120_2.png) [@martinjung](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/martinjung)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/251 "2020-02-17T15:10:41Z")
Suggestion to add an Annotation specifically for migrating animals, such as birds. Could be named ‘Migratory’ with a binary choice (yes|no) Reason is that I believe there is different information content (especially when shared with GBIF) in observations that were observed on the ground and those that fly over at high altitudes. ---
**Author:** ![catchang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/catchang/32/4700_2.png) [@catchang](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/catchang)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/252 "2020-03-10T13:53:29Z")
Did anyone suggest adding “cotyledons present” to plants? Now that it’s spring, I’m starting to see lupines that I’m learning to ID by cotyledon shape and just realized how useful that annotation could be. ---
**Author:** ![kpmcfarland](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kpmcfarland/32/222_2.png) [@kpmcfarland](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/kpmcfarland)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/253 "2020-04-07T12:57:34Z")
For Plant Phenology, it would be great to add a category “Not Flowering”. Right now, if the plant is bare of flowers or fruit, you can’t select anything and so if you are trying to tag everything, in filter it looks like those still need to be filled out, when in fact, there simply isn’t a choice. ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/254 "2020-04-07T20:35:51Z")
then rather leaves or foliage ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/255 "2020-04-07T21:34:51Z")
It was already suggested, hard to find a message in this long topic, but it was something like “vegetating”. ---
**Author:** ![Star3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/star3/32/73028_2.png) [@Star3](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Star3)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/256 "2020-04-08T20:24:32Z")
> [@DianaStuder](#): > > then rather > leaves > or > foliage Foliage wouldn’t cover bare but identifiable plants (eg. leafless trees in winter), would it? ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:57pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/257 "2020-04-08T20:57:01Z")
In our temperate climate, it is _which flower belongs to that leaf_. Bare trees in winter are a rare and exotic sight. ---
**Author:** ![Star3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/star3/32/73028_2.png) [@Star3](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Star3)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 9:21pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/258 "2020-04-08T21:21:42Z")
Oh, I never said it happens in my neck of the woods, either! But I have heard tell of mysterious, exotic, faraway lands where they have _four_ seasons! I know, I wouldn’t have believed it myself, but it came from reputable sources. ;) It is for the denizens of those legendary climes, who may also be on iNaturalist, that I posed the question. ---
**Author:** ![nicolasr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/nicolasr/32/7357_2.png) [@nicolasr](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/nicolasr)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 2:31am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/259 "2020-04-14T02:31:34Z")
There is a new annotation for plant phenology or so far I am aware. However, it needs to be translated into Spanish, ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/260 "2020-04-14T02:39:11Z")
Yes, “No evidence of flowering” has been added under Plant Phenology, for Angiospermae. ---
**Author:** ![lvdt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/lvdt/32/21444_2.png) [@lvdt](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/lvdt)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 11:40am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/261 "2020-04-15T11:40:50Z")
If I can ask a question about it: would it be the correct annotation for a situation where the photo shows that a fruit used to be present, but has already fallen / been picked / eaten by something? As I understand fruiting doesn’t apply in that case. ---
**Author:** ![botanicaltreasures](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/botanicaltreasures/32/6537_2.png) [@botanicaltreasures](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/botanicaltreasures)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627/262 "2020-04-15T12:21:05Z")
Willows Salix can have male and female catkins which look very different. A gender option would be relevant for plants also. [Previous page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/lets-talk-annotations/627.md?page=14)