# New: Predators Project **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Tags:** projects\ **Created:** [June 1, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959 "2020-06-01T01:08:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aisti](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/aisti/32/5431_2.png) [@aisti](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/aisti)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/21 "2020-06-02T21:39:08Z")
I understand wanting to limit it to carnivory, and personally think carnivorous plants would be interesting to include! ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/22 "2020-06-02T21:41:18Z")
> [@karen5lund](#): > > I also recommended this group to someone who’s been sharing great photos of birds (mostly ospreys) carrying fish. In general or someone in particular? ---
**Author:** ![karen5lund](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karen5lund/32/8053_2.png) [@karen5lund](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karen5lund)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 7:08pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/23 "2020-06-03T19:08:02Z")
Someone in particular because of his several photos of birds clutching fish, but of course I’d recommend it to others where appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 11:40pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/24 "2020-06-03T23:40:56Z")
Oh sorry I thought you wrote “recommend”. As in, I should go find someone like that. Whoops! 😅 I’m glad you like the project! ---
**Author:** ![lallen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/lallen/32/3814_2.png) [@lallen](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/lallen)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:47pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/25 "2020-06-05T18:47:03Z")
I have one photo of 2 southern ground hornbills ([https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891006](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891006)) each with a different amphibian. Can the project allow for 2 species in the “prey” field? I’ve already posted the photos to id the prey ([https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891001](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891001) and [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891000](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/27891000)) . Thanks ---
**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/26 "2020-06-05T18:59:15Z")
It would need to be two separate datapoints, so one observation for each bird. ---
**Author:** ![jey42](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jey42/32/3966_2.png) [@jey42](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/jey42)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 5:47am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/27 "2020-06-06T05:47:19Z")
I assume scavenging isn’t part of the intent of this project? For example I have an observation of turkey vultures on pinniped remains ([https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29993404](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29993404)), but I doubt they killed it themselves. ---
**Author:** ![mmmiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/mmmiller/32/7699_2.png) [@mmmiller](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/mmmiller)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/28 "2020-06-06T14:40:51Z")
Being a bit new, I’m not sure how one can always identify the species that is the prey. What species is that Egret holding? I tried looking at the project observations (to see what kind of identification was given to the prey in cases where I felt it would be hard to tell) but I can’t find how to access that info within the project and looking at the individual observations doesn’t seem to necessarily reveal it. (some identify the prey in a comment but not always). Additionally, does one need to have the predator at species level id? For example, it’s rare that any photo of a spider I take makes it to species level identification therefore I would presume they wouldn’t be eligible for the project - although even if I could get the spider to species level, I doubt I would ever get the prey at species level. So I guess I’m asking, do I need species level id for both prey and predator? If so, I doubt I’d ever get that lucky at an observation. :-) It’s a cool project, though. ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/29 "2020-06-07T00:12:24Z")
No, but we could always make a scavengers project. Anyone else interested? > [@jey42](#): > > I assume scavenging isn’t part of the intent of this project? For example I have an observation of turkey vultures on pinniped remains ([https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29993404](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29993404)), but I doubt they killed it themselves. ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/30 "2020-06-07T00:16:47Z")
Neither predator nor prey needs to be species-level. In this case I photographed the school of fish and IDed them as mummichogs, but otherwise would have left it at “ray-finned fishes”. And tons of species are really hard to get to species level without close examination or even dissection so honestly that would be unreasonable I think. ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 12:18am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/31 "2020-06-07T00:18:03Z")
If anyone is interested in seeing species-level observations only they can always use the search filter. ---
**Author:** ![mmmiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/mmmiller/32/7699_2.png) [@mmmiller](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/mmmiller)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2020, 3:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/32 "2020-06-07T03:49:11Z")
Okay, perhaps I was being to literal when I read the project guidelines. You did use the word species in your original post and it’s used in the terms and rules of the project. Again… newbie kind of question - it would seem that you’re not using the word species, in this case, to mean species level identification. Because some projects do require species level identification so it might be good to make that clear for this project. I guess I would choose a word other than species. But, I’m pedantic at times. :-) I’m thrilled that I can likely find observations that would qualify. edit to add : what does this mean? “quality grade research, needs\_id” ---
**Author:** ![dkaposi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dkaposi/32/1451_2.png) [@dkaposi](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/dkaposi)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/33 "2020-06-19T19:16:58Z")
here is a related project that may be of interest: [https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/odonata-predation-eating](https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/odonata-predation-eating) ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/34 "2020-06-23T16:23:54Z")
Thanks, I joined that one. ---
**Author:** ![cammie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cammie/32/46117_2.png) [@cammie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cammie)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/35 "2020-06-23T16:25:37Z")
Well, every observation is of a species whether or not that species has been identified. ;) But yes, I can edit the description. ---
**Author:** ![sessilefielder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/sessilefielder/32/3197_2.png) [@sessilefielder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/sessilefielder)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/36 "2020-06-23T19:14:45Z")
The [Trials of Life](https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/trials-of-life) project sounds similar. ---
**Author:** ![mmmiller](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/mmmiller/32/7699_2.png) [@mmmiller](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/mmmiller)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/37 "2020-07-06T20:08:19Z")
for what it’s worth, I tried adding an observation to the project the other day. It was a spider with a fly as prey, but I didn’t have the species for the fly. It wouldn’t let me add it. It would let me choose ‘fly’ in the drop down menu but the add button remained greyed out and I couldn’t get it to actually go through the process of adding it. But that’s okay. It’s obviously working for other people and I don’t need to figure this one out. :-) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-predators-project/12959/38 "2020-09-04T20:08:22Z")
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