# Not all observations uploading **URL:** \ **Category:** Bug Reports\ **Tags:** web\ **Created:** [July 12, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946 "2019-07-12T11:07:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/1 "2019-07-12T11:07:51Z")
When I upload a bunch of obs (I usually do about 8 obs at a time with around 18 pics), often one of them doesn’t upload. A random one in the middle of the bunch. This doesn’t happen on all uploads. I have waited in case something needs time to refresh, but the missing ob never reappears, and I have to re-upload it. This has been happening for 2 days now. Brave on Ubuntu Studio 18.10 ---
**Author:** ![kildor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kildor/32/2453_2.png) [@kildor](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/kildor)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/2 "2019-07-12T15:39:14Z")
Is it possible that you press Esc when some observations are being uploaded? I used to had similar problem when, as example, tried to close lightbox when other images in queue were uploaded (and shown “Metadata upload” label). ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/3 "2019-07-12T15:46:31Z")
No, I don’t press Esc. Thanks for suggestion, though :-) ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/4 "2019-07-13T09:00:38Z")
It just happened again :-( Uploaded 14 obs, only 13 recorded. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/5 "2019-07-13T09:15:05Z")
And again. Only 8 of 9 obs uploaded. I can find no reason for a particular ob/image not uploading. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/6 "2019-07-21T13:46:46Z")
I thought as long as I loaded no more than 8 obs at a time, that I wouldn’t lose any. But I’ve just uploaded 7 and only 6 recorded :-( ---
**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/7 "2019-07-21T15:30:37Z")
interesting! for anyone who’s in the position to actually troubleshoot this properly, i think this the photo for the missing observation karoopixie noted just above: [https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623251](https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623251). this photo references an observation which does not seem to exist (or is broken somehow): [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29239110](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29239110). the replacement photo and observation appear to be [https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623573](https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623573) and [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29239247](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29239247), respectively. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/8 "2019-07-21T15:51:22Z")
Pisum, you a Wonder! How did you do that?? Yes, you have found the correct photo, and when I open the ob, all I get is the spinning wheel. I am gobsmacked! What you have discovered will indeed help the devs find the problem I’m sure! I could find no rhyme or reason for an ob not uploading. Though it is never (so far) the first or last in a batch. This has been stressing me out terribly because I don’t know how long it’s been going on or how many obs I’ve lost. I only noticed the problem 9 days ago [timestamp], but it could have been happening for weeks! @tiwane @kueda can you help, please? ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/9 "2019-07-21T15:53:56Z")
Also interesting: you can see how many times a link has been clicked, but you will see that the broken ob link in your comment doesn’t have a number even though I did click it! ---
**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/10 "2019-07-21T16:42:23Z")
> [@karoopixie](#): > > How did you do that?? just found 6 observations + 1 laggard, looked at the 6 observations’ photo sequence range, and then used brute force to find a photo in that range that matched the laggard. > [@karoopixie](#): > > This has been stressing me out terribly because I don’t know how long it’s been going on or how many obs I’ve lost. yes, especially with your multiple reports, it seemed like an important enough issue for someone to at least have verified it. since it didn’t look like anyone had, i figured i’d volunteer some troubleshooting power in this case, and hopefully that accelerates the proper troubleshooting in this case. now i need to go check to see if i’m missing any observations. i’m impressed that you were observant enough to notice missing observations. i would not have noticed. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/11 "2019-07-21T17:08:42Z")
Thank you so much! 🤗 Your Super Sleuth powers will definitely give the techs somewhere to start, because the problem was so amorphous til now. I discovered it because I wanted to do an interaction, so I looked for the ob to get its URL and couldn’t find it. I was flummoxed. Anyway, so I loaded it again, but kept checking after that, and that’s when I discovered it was happening _often_ and I have no idea how many have missed the boat :-( I am really hoping that the techs can find all the orphaned photos and repair the missing obs {hope hope}. ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 4:10am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/12 "2019-07-23T04:10:58Z")
Thanks @pisum. @karoopixie I’ll put this in my weekly report. Can you please email this photo ([https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623251](https://www.inaturalist.org/photos/45623251)) to [help@inaturalist.org](mailto:help@inaturalist.org) just so we can take a look at it? Probably won’t make a difference but would be good to have around. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/13 "2019-07-23T06:32:32Z")
Thank you, Tony! Just to be clear: do you want me to email you my original of the photo, or the photo that is on the link? ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:38am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/14 "2019-07-23T06:38:35Z")
The original photo from your computer. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/15 "2019-07-26T08:50:33Z")
Just happened again. Only 8 of 9 uploaded. The missing one I uploaded again - [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29563361](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/29563361) ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:38pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/16 "2019-07-26T16:38:54Z")
And again. Only 7 of 8 uploaded. ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/17 "2019-07-26T16:52:40Z")
And again. 4 of 5!!! ---
**Author:** ![pisum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/91b2a8/32.png) [@pisum](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/pisum)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/18 "2019-07-26T18:11:47Z")
as consistently as you encounter the problem, and as quiet as others are regarding this issue, i wonder if Brave is related to the issue somehow? i get the sense that that browser tries to do some things in the background on top of its Chromium bones to enhance security and privacy. so maybe that causes some unexpected behavior in some cases? maybe try loading your next few sets of observations using a different browser, and see if you notice things still getting dropped? ---
**Author:** ![tiwane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/tiwane/32/54612_2.png) [@tiwane](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/tiwane)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/19 "2019-07-26T18:18:40Z")
I uploaded about 20+ observations via Brave last night without any issues, but I have a speedy connection. If I’m not mistaken @karoopixie, you have pretty slow internet connection, correct? ---
**Author:** ![karoopixie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/karoopixie/32/69882_2.png) [@karoopixie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/karoopixie)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946/20 "2019-07-26T18:30:56Z")
Thanks, pisum & tiwane. Yes, I have a slow connection, but the PICS _are_ uploading and are sitting in iNat’s database somewhere, but I don’t understand why the OBSERVATION doesn’t record. I have noticed that it is (so far) always an ob with only one pic. Don’t know if that’s relevant or helpful? I always wait for all the pics to have finished loading before hitting Submit. I will try a different browser and see if the problem persists. [Next page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/not-all-observations-uploading/4946.md?page=2)