# Second-rate species? **URL:** \ **Category:** Nature Talk\ **Tags:** common-names\ **Created:** [January 8, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050 "2024-01-08T00:02:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lothlin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/lothlin/32/40591_2.png) [@lothlin](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/lothlin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/22 "2024-01-10T21:07:57Z")
\*non-avian dinosaurs (My pedantry is hilarious to ME, probably no one else) ---
**Author:** ![Vireya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/vireya/32/10901_2.png) [@Vireya](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Vireya)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:25pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/23 "2024-01-10T21:25:42Z")
If things without common names are second-rate, what about things without scientific names? There is a bug I find regularly in my area which only has a genus name as it is undescribed at present. Sample observation from just a couple of days ago: [https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/196182979](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/196182979) Is it third-rate? ---
**Author:** ![jnstuart](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jnstuart/32/1623_2.png) [@jnstuart](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/jnstuart)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/24 "2024-01-10T21:47:22Z")
The Amorphous Amorbus ---
**Author:** ![upupa-epops](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/upupa-epops/32/1972_2.png) [@upupa-epops](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/upupa-epops)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/25 "2024-01-10T23:42:32Z")
Funny how, like in your example, common names are sometimes more stable than scientific names. A decent amount of neotropical birds have Latin names as their common names because they ran out of similar birds to compare them to, or didn’t want to add yet another genus of just “flycatchers”. E.g. euphonias, elaenias, saltators… ---
**Author:** ![GothHobbit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/gothhobbit/32/34548_2.png) [@GothHobbit](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/GothHobbit)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/26 "2024-01-14T04:11:37Z")
> [@lothlin](#): > > \*non-avian dinosaurs > > (My pedantry is hilarious to ME, probably no one else) No, no; two serious armchair paleontologists in this household. We’ve gotten a lot of giggles out of people’s reactions when taking the nephling to the grocery and them repeatedly asking “we’re getting dinosaur for dinner, right?” ---
**Author:** ![DianaStuder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/dianastuder/32/43358_2.png) [@DianaStuder](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/DianaStuder)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 8:55am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/27 "2024-01-14T08:55:50Z")
Not a problem - I could buy dinosaur noodles. But I’m vegetarian. ---
**Author:** ![malcolmstorey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@malcolmstorey](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/malcolmstorey)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 5:54pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/28 "2024-01-14T17:54:44Z")
Dinosaur names are acceptable cos they’re learnt by kids who are too young to realise that they can’t handle Latin names. It’s only after they grow up and are told that Latin names are too difficult that it becomes a problem. Gardeners manage fine. I’ve always been told that [insert taxonomic group here] will never become popular until they are all given English names. But football seems to have caught on without all the players getting English names. (For the benefit of any Americans reading this, I’m talking about proper football here!). ---
**Author:** ![jnstuart](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/jnstuart/32/1623_2.png) [@jnstuart](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/jnstuart)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/29 "2024-01-14T18:38:29Z")
> [@malcolmstorey](#): > > For the benefit of any Americans reading this, I’m talking about proper football here!). Ouch. And stated during the NFL playoffs, no less, the most wonderful time of the year. But point taken. American football was never properly named as a sport. Should’ve been American rugby. ---
**Author:** ![Marie-B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marie-b/32/37346_2.png) [@Marie-B](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/Marie-B)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/30 "2024-01-15T02:48:17Z")
What class is Bos taurus then? | Language / Type | Name | | | --- | --- | --- | | English | Domestic Cattle | | | English | Domestic Cow | | | English | Cow | | | English | Bull | | | English | Ox | | | English | Steer | | | English | Dairy Cow | | | English | Beef Cattle | | | English | Feral Cattle | | | English | Wild Cattle | | | English | Long horn | | | English | Taurine Cattle | | | English | Bullock | | | English | Heifer | | | English | Heck Cattle | | | English | Hereford | | | English | Scottish cattle | | | English | European Cattle | | | English | Cattle | | | English | Highland | | ---
**Author:** ![GeolTel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/geoltel/32/76853_2.png) [@GeolTel](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/GeolTel)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/31 "2024-01-15T12:39:39Z")
Very popular food? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/second-rate-species/48050/32 "2024-03-15T12:39:47Z")
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