# Some moth memes I made **URL:** \ **Category:** Nature Talk\ **Tags:** fun, silliness\ **Created:** [June 10, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634 "2022-06-10T00:49:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/1 "2022-06-10T00:49:42Z")
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**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/2 "2022-06-10T00:51:55Z")
There’s a topic for memes: [https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/nature-inspired-memes/27300](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/nature-inspired-memes/27300) But moths are butterflies, so they’re correct. ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/3 "2022-06-10T00:53:27Z")
Moths aren’t butterflies ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/4 "2022-06-10T00:54:20Z")
They’re, all Lepidopterans can be called butterflies. ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/5 "2022-06-10T00:57:39Z")
The definition of Lepidoptera is “an order of insects that comprises the butterflies and moths.” If the meme said “Is this a Lepidopteran?” that would be correct. But saying that moths and butterflies are the same is like saying turtles and tortoises are the same. They’re related, but different in many ways. ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/6 "2022-06-10T00:59:08Z")
That’s the way English looks at them, but no more than that, same with turtles. ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/7 "2022-06-10T01:00:21Z")
> [@marina\_gorbunova](#): > > That’s the way English looks at them Is the word for moths and butterflies different in your language? (This is an assumption) ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/8 "2022-06-10T01:05:13Z")
It’s complictated, you can call everything “бабочка”, call any moth and sometimes a butterfly “мотылёк”, small moth is “моль”, for order there’s a separate translation of Latin name – “чешуекрылые”. upd. Papilionoidea - булавоусые бабочки ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/9 "2022-06-10T01:07:25Z")
So are you saying “бабочка” which google translates to butterfly, is the same (or at least used the same) as Lepidoptera in Russian? ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/10 "2022-06-10T01:18:17Z")
Yes, though the latter is only used by scientists. ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/11 "2022-06-10T01:27:17Z")
I know English can be weird sometimes, so I put the words “Butterfly” and “Moth” into google translate. Japanese, German, Spanish, and Hindi all have different words for “Butterfly” and “Moth”. Regardless, butterflies and moths have different taxonomy. The superfamily “Papilionoidea” contains every known species of butterfly (except American moth-butterflies). If you read through the taxa listed under Papilionoidea you wont find any of the moths I included in that meme because they aren’t butterflies. They’re all in a different superfamily called “Bombycoidea” which is defined as “a superfamily of moths”. ---
**Author:** ![egordon88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/egordon88/32/29204_2.png) [@egordon88](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/egordon88)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/12 "2022-06-10T01:33:11Z")
Butterflies are moths and bees are wasps and squares are rectangles ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/13 "2022-06-10T01:34:00Z")
What do you mean? ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/14 "2022-06-10T01:34:03Z")
That wasn’t the point, it’s that people who call Satuurniidae a butterfly are correct, it is lepidopteran, and if you wish you can guide them that those are actually different from Papilionoidea, though I’m pretty sure people can see that even if they can’t verbally explain the difference. ---
**Author:** ![fmiudo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/fmiudo/32/5584_2.png) [@fmiudo](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/fmiudo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/15 "2022-06-10T01:35:11Z")
![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/3/6/36f82e47460576d509f073e8bfe9d0bd6a12aed3.png) reposting my meme with a subtle change that fits the discussion ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/16 "2022-06-10T01:37:14Z")
I can send you a link about Papilionoidea from iNat to you. It includes American moth-butterflies so I admit I was mistaken about that, but it doesn’t include Saturniidae. [https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/47224-Papilionoidea](https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/47224-Papilionoidea) ---
**Author:** ![marina\_gorbunova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/marina_gorbunova/32/31454_2.png) [@marina\_gorbunova](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/marina_gorbunova)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/17 "2022-06-10T01:40:28Z")
I know that, but how is it relevant? ---
**Author:** ![wolfram06](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/wolfram06/32/27928_2.png) [@wolfram06](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/wolfram06)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 1:41am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/18 "2022-06-10T01:41:23Z")
Because that proves that the moths I put in the meme are actually moths and not butterflies. Edit: To put it simply, every species in the order Lepidoptera that is not in the superfamily Papilionoidea is a moth. ---
**Author:** ![egordon88](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/egordon88/32/29204_2.png) [@egordon88](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/egordon88)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 3:18am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/19 "2022-06-10T03:18:33Z")
Butterflies are just silly, day flying moths that have tricked humans into providing extra food for them. No one says “plant peach trees to save _Synanthedon exitiosa_” … ---
**Author:** ![adriankreft](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/adriankreft/32/28494_2.png) [@adriankreft](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/adriankreft)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 7:02am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634/20 "2022-06-10T07:02:00Z")
Actually in German “Schmetterlinge” = butterflies also works for all Lepidoptera. There is a difference between “Tagfalter” = typical butterflies and “Nachtfalter” = mostly nocturnal butterflies. “Motte” = moth is the name for some families of “Kleinschmetterlinge” = Microlepidoptera. A typical species would be the Common Clothes Moth (_Tineola bisselliella_). There are people here too that call every nocturnal butterfly a moth. But there’s also people that call almost every flying insect a “Mücke” = mosquito. 😬 The meme is in English though, so it works. It just doesn’t translate well internationally. 😉 [Next page](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/some-moth-memes-i-made/32634.md?page=2)