# Subspecies and establishment means

**URL:** <https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018>\
**Category:** General\
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**Created:** [October 5, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018 "2019-10-05T14:39:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![andrewgillespie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/andrewgillespie/32/6885_2.png) [@andrewgillespie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/andrewgillespie)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018/1 "2019-10-05T14:39:35Z")

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I can’t capture establishment means records for sub-species: for example Olea europaea subsp. cuspidata for South Africa [https://www.inaturalist.org/places/south-africa#q=olea](https://www.inaturalist.org/places/south-africa#q=olea) does not show any sub-species. How can establishment be captured for sub-species?

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**Author:** ![bouteloua](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bouteloua/32/1180_2.png) [@bouteloua](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bouteloua)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018/2 "2019-10-05T15:32:02Z")

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Can you expand a bit on what you mean by “capture”? That place page truncates at species to my understanding (doesn’t show taxa at finer ranks).

You can find and edit subspecies establishment means by clicking “View Check List page” in the bottom left corner, then searching from there. Be sure to change the “rank” filter from “species” to “any”:

[https://www.inaturalist.org/check\_lists/7324-South-Africa-Check-List?q=&view=photo&taxon=57140&observed=any&threatened=any&establishment\_means=any&occurrence\_status=any&rank=all&taxonomic\_status=active&commit=Filter](https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/7324-South-Africa-Check-List?q=&view=photo&taxon=57140&observed=any&threatened=any&establishment_means=any&occurrence_status=any&rank=all&taxonomic_status=active&commit=Filter)

[https://www.inaturalist.org/listed\_taxa/15085929](https://www.inaturalist.org/listed_taxa/15085929)

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**Author:** ![andrewgillespie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/andrewgillespie/32/6885_2.png) [@andrewgillespie](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/andrewgillespie)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018/3 "2019-10-05T16:02:18Z")

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Thanks, that is what I needed. Buy capture I just meant to edit the establishment means and change it from unknown to native.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/subspecies-and-establishment-means/7018/4 "2019-12-04T16:02:26Z")

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