# Um? Auto-umbrella group label seems off **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [May 15, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995 "2026-05-15T02:10:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![felicia54513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/felicia54513/32/63797_2.png) [@felicia54513](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/felicia54513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/1 "2026-05-15T02:10:47Z")
Not sure if this is the project owner’s doing, who they are, or how to reach them, but this…uh…seems off. I tried manually removing it but apparently I can’t? Sorry if this is the wrong place for this question, don’t know what the right place is. ![1000006809](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/1/f/1ff108649196e9e1c696244fa1657e2a0fdcbac6.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![thebeachcomber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/thebeachcomber/32/12748_2.png) [@thebeachcomber](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/thebeachcomber)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:34am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/2 "2026-05-15T02:34:00Z")
if you go to [the umbrella project](https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/key-biodiversity-areas-of-canada) in question, and look at the map, you’ll see that some of the defined areas they’re using within individual collection projects have spatial boundaries that cross the border and dip a little into the USA, hence why your observation is appearing in it > [@felicia54513](#): > > I tried manually removing it but apparently I can’t? you cannot manually remove an observation from a collection/umbrella project; it either fulfils the project filter(s) or it doesn’t, it’s all automatic. You could ‘remove’ that label from **all** of your observations if you wish, by leaving the umbrella project (as you have previously joined it), but not any individually ---
**Author:** ![ciafre](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/ciafre/32/34691_2.png) [@ciafre](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/ciafre)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/3 "2026-05-15T02:40:17Z")
Arkansas is significantly south the USA-Canada border. But the observation doesn’t seem to show up on the umbrella project’s map (nor do any others remotely close to Arkansas. Does the it have an extremely large accuracy radius or something? ---
**Author:** ![schoenitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/schoenitz/32/56_2.png) [@schoenitz](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/schoenitz)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:43am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/4 "2026-05-15T02:43:02Z")
Does this umbrella show up on any other of your observations? All other observations? ---
**Author:** ![thebeachcomber](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/thebeachcomber/32/12748_2.png) [@thebeachcomber](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/thebeachcomber)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/5 "2026-05-15T03:04:47Z")
> [@ciafre](#): > > Arkansas is significantly south the USA-Canada border thanks, I didn’t pay attention to that ---
**Author:** ![bugbaer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/bugbaer/32/49657_2.png) [@bugbaer](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/bugbaer)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/6 "2026-05-15T13:58:45Z")
> who they are The umbrella project says it was created by @kba\_canada. I noticed that your [recent Winnipeg observation](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/360908614) also has the umbrella project label on it, even though the only KBA areas that have Winnipeg in the name are specific island/aquatic locations that do not match with that location. The map of the Umbrella project observations also doesn’t have your observation on it: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/3X/5/1/5134173021fc93952d866fad0366d5ca6c6015f0.jpeg) So good news: it doesn’t seem like these out-of-bounds observations are actually being included the Umbrella Project. Bad news: I don’t know why the project is being listed on your out-of-bounds observations. I’m definitely not seeing anything similar with the umbrella project I belong to ---
**Author:** ![cthawley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/cthawley/32/1445_2.png) [@cthawley](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/cthawley)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/7 "2026-05-15T14:31:59Z")
Haven’t looked, but maybe something like this is happening? [https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/project-displaying-on-all-observations/78607](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/project-displaying-on-all-observations/78607) ---
**Author:** ![schoenitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/schoenitz/32/56_2.png) [@schoenitz](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/schoenitz)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 2:42pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/8 "2026-05-15T14:42:25Z")
Indeed. This project is malformed: [https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/south-shore-roseway-to-baccaro-kba-ns017](https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/south-shore-roseway-to-baccaro-kba-ns017) It has no inclusion criteria defined, which has the effect that the umbrella project appears on each observation of everyone who has joined the umbrella project. Contact the umbrella admins (kba\_canada, petersoroye) and ask them to remove this project from the umbrella. And/or contact the malformed project’s admin (oh look, the same people) and ask them to fix that project. This is just one problem project I found. I didn’t look at all of them, there could easily be others. ---
**Author:** ![felicia54513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/felicia54513/32/63797_2.png) [@felicia54513](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/felicia54513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 6:36pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/10 "2026-05-15T18:36:05Z")
> [@schoenitz](#): > > Contact the umbrella admins (kba\_canada, petersoroye) and ask them to remove this project from the umbrella. OK, honestly all I know is the weird Arkansas observations, like I said, up until those my observations have all been in Canada, so I never thought twice about it. Is @petersoroye on this forum? ---
**Author:** ![felicia54513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/felicia54513/32/63797_2.png) [@felicia54513](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/felicia54513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/11 "2026-05-15T18:37:31Z")
> [@schoenitz](#): > > And/or contact the malformed project’s admin (oh look, the same people) and ask them to fix that project. Are you suggesting that I or @cthawley do that? ---
**Author:** ![felicia54513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/felicia54513/32/63797_2.png) [@felicia54513](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/felicia54513)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/12 "2026-05-15T18:39:18Z")
> [@schoenitz](#): > > Does this umbrella show up on any other of your observations? All other observations? It shows up on all of them, but 90% of my observations are in Canada, which is why I never gave it a second thought until now. ---
**Author:** ![schoenitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/schoenitz/32/56_2.png) [@schoenitz](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/schoenitz)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/13 "2026-05-15T18:52:34Z")
You should do it. You can message them directly or @mention them. They’re the only ones who can do anything about this. Edit: they’re not on the forums, so you’ll have to do it on iNaturalist itself. ---
**Author:** ![KBA\_Canada](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/kba_canada/32/44726_2.png) [@KBA\_Canada](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/KBA_Canada)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/14 "2026-05-19T19:47:15Z")
Hi all, thanks for bringing this to our attention. And thank you to @schoenitz for pointing out the one project with no place associated with it. I was having issues creating the place for it, but re-tried today and it worked. I looked at your Ovenbird observation and KBA\_Canada is no longer listed under projects, so it seems to have worked! Thanks again all. ---
**Author:** ![schoenitz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/forum.inaturalist.org/schoenitz/32/56_2.png) [@schoenitz](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/schoenitz)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/15 "2026-05-19T21:30:36Z")
Hey, thanks for fixing it. Great to see it working out. Though it was @felicia54513’s observations that were affected (Not mine. Maybe I should join the project though?). edit: update! I joined the umbrella! Some of my Canadian observations are in the project! The umbrella does not show up on unrelated observations! Excitement! Exclamation points! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/inaturalist/original/2X/7/7831452cf7f0d653ff1ffd34176334b7ef1b6a17.png) [@system](https://forum.inaturalist.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/um-auto-umbrella-group-label-seems-off/78995/16 "2026-07-18T21:31:19Z")
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