Why is this Observation Casual/Needs ID/Research Grade? - "Official" Topic

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iNat automatically flags observations as not wild when there are at least 10 observations nearby that have been marked as not wild.
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/why-are-my-observations-being-set-to-casual-grade-for-seemingly-no-reason/21610

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Are you totally sure it’s wild? It’s a cut down tree near “park”.

This is a wildland park, in the American sense of national parks or state parks which are often nature preserves. I’d guess it was cut down for trail maintenance.

The current identification on the observation, Maytenus boaria (Maiten Tree), is a native of South America. If that ID is correct, then the plant is at least introduced in this location, and possibly deliberately planted (it’s a County Park after all…). If the latter, then the system indication of not “wild” was correct. But probably best to let the ID process take its course first, and see if the community ID ends up agreeing.

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It’s considered naturalized in California, is recorded to be spreading on its own from previous plantings, and is a potential invasive risk.

Given the location (county park, rural area, not in an urban or suburban area) and that it appears that the majority of the rest of the vegetation there is natural rather than planted, and the small size of the stump, it’s a fair bet that this is a “wild” one from the naturalized group that self seeded.

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Short answer is: yes, this is the way that the system is supposed to work. @brennafarrell highlighted some of the criteria for the system automatically flagging these as not wild/naturalized

You can see more info here: https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#quality

The relevant section: “The system will vote that the observation is not wild/naturalized if there are at least 10 other observations of a genus or lower in the smallest county-, state-, or country-equivalent place that contains this observation and 80% or more of those observations have been marked as not wild/naturalized.”

So if you feel that this is a wild individual, you’re free to vote in the DQA section to designate as wild by offsetting the automatic iNat vote with your own. Based on @earthknight’s comments it seems like that vote would be appropriate in this case.

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Thanks for all the responses. In my humble opinion invalidating an observation without supporting evidence should not be allowed, is there a way to enforce including a reason for invalidating the observation? This has been brought up before in other forum posts. Can more smarts be added to the automatic Inat invalidaton, maybe something like “this user has 1000 posts they probably know the difference between casual and wild”? This is probably my own petty problem and one of my many irks, I am having the time of my life with this stupendous tool thanks.

It saves us all from thousands of planted Rosa and other cultivated plants and animals, there’re users with thousands of observations who never mark any cultivated plants, so numbers don’t mean user cares. You do and as an active user I’m sure you will notice if it will happen next time and even though it is annoying, one vote against system decision overrides it, so click on it and never think again about it.

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Just as a side note, if your observation gets a sad, gray “casual” label, it doesn’t at all mean it’s “invalid”. Observations of cultivated plants, or kept animals are just as useful as their wild counterparts. “Validity” isn’t a useful concept here.

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I’m wondering why these observations are being set to casual grade?
They seem perfectly legit to me, and I find tons of observations like them that become research grade. I’ve noticed some correlation between species that are introduced/feral and observations that get set to casual, but if I’m not wrong introduced species don’t need to be set as casual.
here are some examples:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/72394712
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/72316234
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71454445
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/58247140

iNat automatically flags domestic cats and dogs as “not wild” in many areas where wild/feral populations haven’t been recorded. If you’re sure they aren’t someone’s pet, you can mark “yes” next to “organism is wild?” image

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Also, the last one with the plant was marked as captive by a user, likely because it on a table, I’d guess? Again, you can over-ride that, or @ the user to ask what their rationale was.

Also, see this forum post: https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/why-is-this-observation-casual-needs-id-research-grade-official-thread/13186 :)

And this on the help page: * The system will vote that the observation is not wild/naturalized if there are at least 10 other observations of a genus or lower in the smallest county-, state-, or country-equivalent place that contains this observation and 80% or more of those observations have been marked as not wild/naturalized. - https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#quality:

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Thank you! Lol I put the plant on my table so I could take a proper photo of it.

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next time, try to provide a small description, like “this cat has no owner” or something like that.

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You might also check the locations you’ve assigned to the observations. Three of the four flagged here seem to be in or just outside of urban yards (if they are accurate) which may possibly have had something to do with the assumption that the organism was “not wild”. If the locations are not accurate, you can Edit any observation and manually move the location indicator to the correct spot.

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I don’t think being inside of a yard has anything to do with it, otherwise we wouldn’t get the countless “needs ID” domestic cats on laps in houses, or tigers in zoos, etc. Like it says on the help page, “The system will vote that the observation is not wild/naturalized if there are at least 10 other observations of a genus or lower in the smallest county-, state-, or country-equivalent place that contains this observation and 80% or more of those observations have been marked as not wild/naturalized.”

… I wish the system was smart enough to know that a dog in a yard or a cat on a lap was a pet!

I think @je9h was implying that an identifer (not iNat itself) might assume non wild/captive based on the location in an urban yard (though ideally someone doing this would leave a comment as to why they ticked it for captive in the DQA).

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Gotcha, I thought they were saying that the program made the decision based on the urban location. The 3 animal (2 domestic cat, 1 domestic dog) that ware marked casual were marked by iNat, not a user, which inevitably leads to confusion because there isn’t a comment made by the program!

Yeah, it would be nice if there were some little symbol that said “The iNat fairy marked this” or something like that (and gave a link to the help, etc.).

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