On the one hand I can totally relate, agriculture (not just ranchers but crop agriculture as well) and environmental well-being are often at odds with each other. However, I can understand where ranchers and farmers are coming from as well, as ranching is their livelihood and a serious setback like …

[image] sethshively: recent societal push to paint having kids in a negative light is quite harmful Maybe we are exposed to different parts of society, but this is definitely not the majority opinion I am receiving. It feels like you are trying to find an enemy for your opinion to be more val…

Maybe “push” was the wrong word to use, and this sentiment may well not be held by the majority, but there does seem, at least to me, to be a fairly pervasive idea in modern society that children are a liability and a burden to one’s own personal enjoyment, or seen as a liability to the planet (whic…

[image] sethshively: a fairly pervasive idea I haven’t noticed any societal push to avoid having children, but I’ve definitely noticed a pervasive idea based on a widely popular book of mythology that enjoins us to propagate early and often.

[image] sethshively: declining birth rates in Western lifestyles. Better education of women. Better health and healthcare ( we eat our vitimultimins and don’t starve) Diet for the planet . Given the large footprint of a ‘comfortable Western lifestyle’ - fewer children equals a smaller enviro…

Every country on Earth has declining birth rates.

Every country has declining birth rates. Not all countries have a birth rate below the replacement rate, but all have declining birth rates.

I know I said I’d drop the subject, but one last thing to consider: environmentally-minded parents having kids and raising them to love nature could likely be better overall for the planet in the future than leaving the propagation of our species to those who couldn’t care less for the planet

I think that implying that [image] localnaturespotter: non-Western countries and their impacts on the environment are somehow worse than the environmental impacts of Western countries is unfair. Even though it is true that environmental regulation is often less restrictive in industrializin…

[image] sethshively: The word “childfree,” which perfectly encapsulates that sentiment, has become a part of semi-mainstream vocabulary. Yes, as an expression of people’s own feelings and to push back against the existing pressure to have children (from family and society at large) that was a…

Environmental Impacts of Western Countries and Lifestyle

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DianaStuder April 18, 2025, 11:32am 58

Unless you include that country called Africa (also parts of Asia, South and Central America)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_fertility_rate

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