Homonyms in Organism Names

Another possibility is that they are using the app and the pix are very small and eyes are not so good anymorr

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Both worms and bugs are covered under the Commission for Zoological Nomenclature, so this is a violation and one or the other should be changed.

A plant and an animal can have the same name. (Here plant = non-animal; plants, fungi, algae, etc.)

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That’s an interesting one! I’m an amateur and self-taught in taxonomy, mostly through my experiences in iNat. My understanding was that Class and Phylum etc all had certain types of endings, and you could usually tell from that ending what they were. There are also capitalisations and italics that are indicative of position within the hierachy, so a genus would always be distinguishable from a phylum just by virtue of being italicised. I have no idea of the actual “rules”, and I must get around to reading them!

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This rule only applied to Genera, not to taxons on different levels on the taxonomic tree. So this has the potential to cause more confusion.

Another example:
the Sword-billed Hummingbird: Ensifera ensifera
crickets and katydids: Enisfera (suborder)

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The big takeaway from me here is that there are conflicting latin genera in different kingdoms. Until now I thought that the entire latin nomenclature was unique by design - so this holds only within kingdoms?

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Botanists and zoologists live on two separate planets.
And they always said there is no Planet B.

Two separate nomenclatural codes.

If the latest ID tips the CID to Life, due to Kingdom Disagreement - we need a popup - did you mean to move the ‘fish’ ID to a ‘daisy’ ID?
(We need more identifiers to care about clearing Kingdom Disagreement - where possible)

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Identifiers can go into their “identify” mode url and replace “taxon_id=” with “ident_taxon_id=” so that they see anything that’s been ID’d with the taxon they’re looking at even if others have disagreed and pushed it back to “life” or kingdom etc. ( I also look at casual observations because a lot are accidentally marked as “captive” … I know I do it at times.)

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Yes, just as @DianaStuder did in the links above:

Yes, identifiers can, but they don’t need more work.
Better to avoid letting bad situations happen.

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Visit https://www.curioustaxonomy.net/rules.html and scroll midway until you read “However, the same name can be used for a plant and an animal.”

Sooo many examples… Maybe some day I’ll photograph an Iris (mantis) on an Iris (flower)…

Or a Dionaea eating a Dionaea (unlikely, as the flytrap is endemic to the US east coast, but the fly is Eurasian).

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Start a homonym project which shows the pairs?
Erica spider (6 obs of 1 sp in Brazil) on Erica flowers (we have 850 sp in Fynbos alone)

Looking up Dianella (apparently a type of mud snail, but no observations), which I’ve seen confused with Dianella (flax-lilies) showed an interesting problem: https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/taxa/149840-Dianella provides the plant Wikipedia page on the snail genus page! Anyone know a way to change that?

Opercularia is another homonym - a ciliate (whatever that might be!) and a plant.

Oh, and then there are the not-quite-homonyms that I’ve also seen confused, though none spring to mind at present.

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flag the taxon on iNat, and a curator will fix it. Although in this case, are you seeing that on the app? I see the correct page on desktop

Nope, it was on the website. It started off showing the right thing (which was almost nothing), then the other appeared. Very odd. I’ll flag it, though, thanks.

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Flag for Curation on the taxon page

I start with ‘Wiki editor please’
since I had a flag dismissed as Not Taxonomy.
Thanks, not. We have some willing Wiki editors. Also some who work to add Wiki text for more taxa.

The Wiki text to About is automated, and so it is sometimes wrong.

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Searching for homonyms, I also found a few duplicated active taxa (and I flagged them for curation):

Stateofmatter Life
  Kingdom Animalia
    Phylum Annelida
        Class Polychaeta
          Subclass Errantia
            Order Phyllodocida
              Suborder Glyceriformia
                  Family Lacydoniidae
                    Genus Lacydonia
                    Genus Lacydonia
              Suborder Nereidiformia
                  Family Syllidae
                    Genus Streptosyllis
                    Genus Streptosyllis
    Phylum Bryozoa
        Class Gymnolaemata
            Order Cheilostomatida
              Suborder Flustrina
                Superfamily Schizoporelloidea
                  Family Escharinidae
                    Genus Escharina
                    Genus Escharina
                Superfamily Smittinoidea
                  Family Smittinidae
                    Genus Prenantia
                    Genus Prenantia
  Kingdom Fungi
    Phylum Ascomycota
      Subphylum Pezizomycotina
        Class Sordariomycetes
          Subclass Hypocreomycetidae
            Order Hypocreales
                  Family Clavicipitaceae
                    Genus Metapochonia
                    Genus Metapochonia

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Also:

Ficus (plant or gastropod)
Crucibulum (fungus or gastropod)

3,005 groups of homonymous taxa found, ignoring homonymous ancestor/child pairs:

Unfortulately a journal post is limited to 1,000,000,000 chars.
I had to split the report in 2 differents posts.

Next step?
A traditional project with all observations with homonymous IDs?

One Crucibulum is in Part 1, another one is in Part 2.

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Anyone know how to contact Mark Isaak other than by email? I’ve been submitting items for years, including several last year, but the site hasn’t been updated in well over a year.