The Computer Vision has made impressive progress in learning to identify leaf mines since I started identifying them on iNat a few years ago. But lately I’ve noticed that it’s been going a bit too far: observations of plants that happen to be hosts of commonly observed leafminers are getting identif…

That’s good, but the problem I am referring to is caused by users who are evidently not thinking about what they’re doing at all, so this advice doesn’t apply. I think the users making the initial wrong IDs are maybe mostly using the Seek app? I’ve never used that, but am I right in thinking that it…

Since there is no indication whether a suggestion is for a plant or an insect some observers may just believe the first suggestion is for the plant they see. For many galls and leafminers there is simply no common name in most of the languages and binomens say nothing to the casual observer.

Wow I didn’t know this, this opens so many possibilities :)

Yes, that’s what I was trying to address with my suggestion of a prompt asking the observer whether they’re trying to ID the plant or something else in the photo.

I don’t know how the CV is penalized when it gets wrong and the thing it got wrong turns out to be in the “other side of the Life spectrum”. In other words. You don’t see the Similar Taxa for a leaf mine or plant to be the plant taxon or the leaf mine that people mis-ID. I read somewhere that once …

[image] ceiseman: maybe mostly using the Seek app? You can see on the observation how it was uploaded (Seek, iNat Android, iNat iPhone, web). But Seek us using an older version of the CV, so if this is a new problem I don’t think it would be from Seek observations.

Okay, I just looked at the most recent Phytomyza ilicicola observations and see that this one is a CV suggestion, uploaded using the iPhone app: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/235710307 So no particular reason to blame Seek. Note that this is just a picture of Ilex opaca leaves, and the …

I suspect that agreements that seem mindless are less about getting on leaderboards than about truly believing that the iNaturalist ID must be correct and agreeing because that seems the right thing to do. (I did that myself, when I started and had no idea about leaderboards at all.)

Related forum thread: https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/computer-vision-mistaking-plants-for-arthropods/53634

Leafminers have broken the CV

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