Someone posted a photo of an elongate beetle larva and identified it as Ocypus olens. I set it back to Coleoptera, which was perhaps presumptuous of me but identifying larval beetles is rather specialised and there was nothing in the observer’s history to suggest they are a beetle taxonomist. Two mo…

To answer two queries: Yes, it is possible to ‘block’ progress this way. Have a read of https://www.inaturalist.org/blog/25514-clarifying-ancestor-disagreements for clarification. Your ID was a ‘branch disagreement’, ie you not only disagreed that the observation was Ocypus olens, but you also di…

I am that one person. My copypasta, with a link back to the iNat blog post. Where you can see in the comments that this has mystifuddled iNatters for years. It mortifies me to explain - to a taxon specialist - or someone who has been on iNat for years (longer than me!) I am not happy that iNat do…

[image] jhbratton: I set it back to Coleoptera, which was perhaps presumptuous It is the only option that iNat permits. To actively disagree. And be passively punished forever :rage: PS because iNat’s CID algorithm uses ‘interesting’ logic, I check What’s This at the CID. For your obs in the…

Basically what you have to do is withdraw your high-level disagreeing ID once there are some correct IDs. That way you aren’t “blocking” any more.

[image] thebeachcomber: ii) Orange. In the same scenario you see someone upload an observation ID’ed as O. olens. However, in this case, you can definitively say that is is not that species due to whatever character you can see. Or you know what it takes to identify O. olens, and you can auth…

[image] adamjroberts: authoritatively Key point. Tickling that Orange button remains the privilege of experts… as well as of overconfident ignoramuses (to put it bluntly). Better double-check in which category one falls before pressing it :laughing:

I also find it very counterintuitive that I sometimes have to retract a high-rank ID (to contradict an obviously wrong species-level ID) to no longer override subsequent lower-rank IDs.

It is the great dilemma of those of us who ID primarily at the family level and above, not being specialist for a broad array of species. You know the species ID is wrong, but you don’t know enough to provide a correct species, just a higher level group. I feel it is still best to click that orange…

[image] Vireya: Basically what you have to do is withdraw your high-level disagreeing ID once there are some correct IDs. Does anyone know of an easy way for us to find our high-level disagreeing IDs? I often miss notifications during busy times and I know I put some “Plantae” out there that …

hmm I’m not sure how to do that easily, I think I only see two kingdom Plantae IDs at all, neither holding anything up https://jumear.github.io/stirfry/iNatAPIv1_identifications.html?rank=kingdom&taxon_id=47126&user_id=annkatrinrose

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I found this recent comment, complete with visual, really helpful.

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