A few days ago I decided to take a look at some observations that are unknown to see if I could help move it to a taxon level where others may have an interest in IDing to genus level. However, in the Filters, rather than selecting the ? symbol under categories I left categories untouched and under …

You can hack filtering such obs in Identify using https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?verifiable=true&lrank=stateofmatter but you’re correct that the rank filters don’t include the root of the tree (State of Matter Life)

I’m not overly concerned with the root of the tree not being included in the rank filters - Mom told me too many times “you can’t have everything” :wink:. I’m more wondering if people are aware that observations such as a plant with an insect on it can have suggested IDs that result in a rank of “s…

[image] bobmcd: Also interesting here is conflicting genuses with the same name but one being a plant and the other being an insect The same genus name can be used for an animal and also for a plant under the separate rules of nomenclature for these two taxa. An example I can think of offhan…

I think it is fair enough that there can be conflicting genus names much the same as there are conflicting names everywhere else. The more names, such as Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species, the better - eventually it hones it down to something unique. I was incorrect in the example I gave. It was…

I think I see what you are trying to say. One possible solution to the specific problem of “homonymy between codes” (e.g. I found a Solenopsis [ant] on a Solenopsis [plant]!) would be to have an automatic “are you sure”-style warning when an ID is entered which involves homonymy between codes. Such …

Thanks – looks like it’s already been well discussed.

My current thought is that this “corner of the room” exists and that it needs to be cleaned up from time to time for the gems that may come out of it. I’m not sure if this is common knowledge or not but people who subscribe to certain taxa such as Fungi or Red Alga may want to glean this rank. Curr…

While we are on the subject of odd things that can happen, I would also point out the the following scenario can also occur, with bad consequences, and maybe you can answer an associated question. There currently doesn’t seem to be anything to stop an uploader swapping the photo on an obs, after so…

I encountered this sort of thing with Lincoln observations… photo of plant, ID’d as plant, later the microscope pollinator photo gets substituted… ta da… ID mistmatch… wasn’t deliberately meant to happen that way, was more of a misunderstanding of how the “project” was supposed to work… but does ill…

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@jnstuart @bobmcd @stephen_thorpe Here is a related discussion and Feature Request that may be of interest.

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