Has anyone thought above solving the community problem by having different formulas and allowing the user to select which one they want to use? By “which one to use,” it would mean for any observation, map, seasonality, Identify session, etc. they display, the data would be filtered according to th…

this gets messy really fast. first, does anyone even have a well-defined alternate observation taxon model that has substantial support as a potential alternative model? second, once you have such a model, you have to create all the supporting setups and processes for it. for example, you if you wan…

Considering all the discussions on alternative model, there must be a lot of interest. Do you really think it would cost that much? If so, that would be a reason not to pursue. Are you just speculating or do you know the software well enough to assess this?

I’ve been a software engineer for 30 years and it’s not at all clear to me that this would double the cost. For stuff I work with it could be not particularly difficult. I work with different data structures, so perhaps the data structures of inaturalist are stored with the community ID build in. …

because observation taxon is such a fundamental thing in the system, there are very few parts of the system that would not be affected by what you’re suggesting. what you’re proposing here is a major, major change in the context of iNaturalist. the dollar figures that i’ve mentioned are back-of-the-…

[image] pisum: you have to have ways for defining who is an expert at the very least some sort of crowd-consensus voting system?

Here’s something to consider, the next time you upload an observation from a lesser known group, look at who the top identifiers are (the people most likely to ID your observation), if you read their profiles, they often are experts in their fields. Look at the top identifier for bees, ambush bugs,…

[image] dan_johnson: Has anyone thought above solving the community problem by having different formulas and allowing the user to select which one they want to use? This seems pretty obviously divisive. It would effectively create two different communities, and would risk inviting users to ta…

just to clarify, i don’t think dan_johnson is saying that the observer’s preference drives the algorithm that is used on a particular observation. i think he’s saying that each observation can be viewed as if the taxon is driven by either algorithm, and each viewing user can decide which algorithm t…

Different formulae with different parameters and different results requiring additional database fields for every option. More bulk, more moving parts, more work for staff and curators. For me it comes down to “Does this contribute to the primary iNat mandate of promoting understanding of biodivers…

[image] pisum: i don’t think dan_johnson is saying that the observer’s preference drives the algorithm that is used on a particular observation And nor am I. There will be two views on the same data, which will subtly influence the way users interact with the interface and each other. In time…

Wild idea on community ID: let user pick the model they want to use

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see https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/implement-an-ispot-style-reputation-system/6998/82

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Wild idea on community ID: let user pick the model they want to use

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