There’s a misidentification issue which seems to arrise among certain Ichneumon wasps: While Enicospilus is common and frequently recognized by CV from past training sets (particularly the common species E. pergatus), the similar genus Ophion has few/no species which are identifiable to species leve…

Ophion peregrinus got learned, so the CV unlearned the genus, The only way to really get it to appear again outside of New Zealand is to get more species in, or remove Ophion peregrinus from the CV by identifying it to genus. The CV can technically be trained at any taxa level. But it is only leaf …

What? Thats not how the CV works. It trains the lowest leaf taxon that is eligible for training, any taxa above a leaf taxon that is learned is forgotten. In this situation. You can make the CV unlearn that species. This will let the CV relearn the genus. You can ID other species anywhere in the …

[image] zoology123: sometimes it’s best to not even ID certain IDable taxa just to avoid them ruining suggesting a genus The CV was made for iNat, not iNat for the CV. To put it another way, as identifiers, our main job is not to optimize the CV’s training data, but to provide the best IDs t…

[image] zoology123: Advocate to staff to change the system, maybe even create a campaign of awareness to get a change. [image] zoology123: Only in a round about way can you get the genus to even show up in CV suggestions outside of New Zealand. This would help a little at least : http…

[image] zygy: I’ve noticed this is a common problem with spiders as well. Not just insects and arachnids but also plants and probably many other taxa. [image] zoology123: The CV can technically be trained at any taxa level. But it is only leaf taxa. Maybe it could be revised. Every no…

[image] jasonhernandez74: The CV was made for iNat, not iNat for the CV. To put it another way, as identifiers, our main job is not to optimize the CV’s training data, but to provide the best IDs that we can. When the CV can help with that, great, but it was never meant to replace human reviewe…

Going forward, at least some of the Geomodel Anomalies should be prevented. A popup that warns - the sp you have chosen is from CA, are you sure, that is what you saw there? https://www.inaturalist.org/blog/99727-using-the-geomodel-to-highlight-unusual-observations https://www.inaturalist.org/blo…

[image] mferreira: If the algorithm (or its implementation) is ever revised apart from the monthly updates, there have been bigger updates too .

I agree that the thread linked there is a good one. The original topic here is focused on a specific aspect of the CV (whether it is trained on genus-level and really, whether it will suggest genus level IDs). I think the discussion of that specific aspect of the CV (and potential solutions) here is…

First part yeah, but the second part does not make sense. We haven’t talked about replacing human reviewers. What you are essentially saying is we shouldn’t prioritize helping make identifiers job of identifying easier. The more accurate the CV is initially, the less misidentifications, the more ob…

Are genus-level RG observations used for CV training?

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sbrobeson April 13, 2025, 8:30am 22

the CV is not irrelevant to human reviewing when it actively makes more work and worse starting conditions for the human reviewers.

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Are genus-level RG observations used for CV training?

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