I have been adding IDs to UK arachnid records for quite a while now. I see the same issues over and over again with people picking unrealistic species when submitting records. For example, every day there are multiple records of ‘Wall Spider’ that clearly aren’t, records submitted of species that ca…

You need to clear old records first, so cv won’t suggest foreign species as seen nearby, there’s a request as I remember to propose higher levels more often, you can look it up if you want to vote, for now you don’t have to write anything, but that way nobody will knew their mistakes, you can avoid…

[image] mhiggott: iNat could be a lot smarter Do you mean that algorithms should be developed to do this? Who will develop the algorithms to accomplish those tasks? I can’t imagine that writing an algorithm capable of “pointing out where species-level IDs are unlikely” would be an easy task. …

The number of UK spider species that can generally be identified to species-level from a decent photo is fairly low. I don’t see why it should be so difficult to code this in somehow.

[image] mhiggott: I don’t see why it should be so difficult to code this in somehow For every country in the world? Or should UK be given special attention for some reason?

Are you just trying to be difficult here? I only look at UK records. I didn’t think it was an unreasonable suggestion.

You ask for something unreal, there’re thousands of species worldwide, you need to code somehow for the system to know for sure it’s not idable for all of them, but by clearing all the wrong ids you will reduce the amount of new wrong ones, they won’t show up as seen nearby, as well as iding e.g. En…

Not trying to be difficult at all. Just imagining the challenges to implementation! iNat is a global platform, and I suspect that the rest of the global population might be upset if a problem is solved for only one country. iNat is a platform primarily for citizen scientists. The best way to nurtur…

The answer? Impossible. Every week I clean up the European records of Niebla - lichen genus that is found only in western North America. And the records are coming not only from newbies. I am starting to recognize some names who repeat and repeat the same mistake.

UK diptera were a total mess a year or two ago, and I’ve expressed similar frustrations on the forum in the past. But after a lot of input from both UK observers and identifiers, and then in turn the latest model update, there has been a radical shift in accuracy of CV IDs and the accuracy of initi…

[image] pfau_tarleton: I can’t imagine that writing an algorithm capable of “pointing out where species-level IDs are unlikely” would be an easy task. There are various design interventions I can imagine which could change how users interact with this aspect of the system. Broad scale algorit…

Could UK spider recorders be encouraged to select more realistic species?

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sbushes July 27, 2021, 12:43pm 22

For reference, with regard to more automated interventions, here is the feature request mentioned above by @carnifex I think also

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Could UK spider recorders be encouraged to select more realistic species?

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