Campanula rotundifolia was recently split into a bunch of species, and notably that species is now considered to be exclusively a Eurasian species. Although the taxon swap was committed, the CV continues to suggest this species throughout North America, and as such hundreds of observations are flood…

If there was a taxon split, is there a reason why the North American observations weren’t reassigned to the species complex when the split was made? Can’t curators do that on a region-by-region basis?

Sounds to me like that’s exactly what happened, except that all observations post-split still get suggested as rotundifolia by the CV, because the geomodel isn’t updated.

Yes this is what’s going on. Plus identifiers still a bit behind on taxonomy still IDing observations as C. rotundifolia.

[image] raymie: Campanula rotundifolia is no longer considered to occur in North America This looks like a good copypasta when bumping it back. I felt that I had to comment because, if we had been discussing the same kind of split in mushrooms, I would expect to see a curt “Campanula rotundif…

“Campanula rotundifolia does not occur in North America” is literally the copypasta I’ve been using (although to cut down on time recently I haven’t been bothering).

I don’t think it takes any longer to copypasta the “no longer considered” version – and that version does not come across as condescending because it acknowledges that the person who made the ID had a valid reason.

Based on the comments on that flag it looks like this should never have been committed in the first place given taxonomic instability.

Charlie complains on every taxon split. That’s not unique to this one.

Either that or you, like me, suffer from splitter syndrome. Not all bad, but I like to see more agreement on splits. Seems like we can’t even decide how many species we’re dealing with - we follow a source only for that source to re-lump.

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ajamico July 14, 2024, 8:36pm 4

Can confirm that’s what’s happening, here’s more info if anyone’s curious:
The flag with discussion: https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/213786
The taxon split that was committed: https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/134716

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