Based on my forum search, there seems to be a (perhaps shaky) consensus to not to disagree when evidence is insufficient (e.g., to move a species community ID to the general generic ID) unless you can prove that the ID is wrong, and not to use the “Based on the evidence, can the Community Taxo…

Thanks all. That clarified it for me. I will use the “disagreeing” function to move to a coarser ID for my pet taxa where I know what I am doing, accompanied with an explanation. It seems to be the right thing to do.

You make a good point. If you’re sure it cannot be IDd to species, go ahead and leave a disagreeing Genus-level ID. But make sure you can defend your decision. If I’m uncertain, I leave a comment. Or a non-disagreeing coarser ID.

I leave plenty of disagreeing higher-taxonomic-level IDs on plants that are at too immature a stage of development to know which species they are. If the observer thinks I’m being rude, then they can expand on why they think it is the species they identified it as. I’m more than happy to be correct…

I don’t see how “can’t be improved” is used rarely while it’s used on a daily basis for tons of obsrvations. If you can’t agree with species you need to add non-dis. id and vote for can be inroved>yes, getting it back from RG if you’re so sure about it. Plus add a comment to notify user how their i…

At least in my region, with the taxa I work with, I almost never see these features used to get observations back to a coarser ID. And they are not in my personal repetoire either, that’s why I’m asking. So this sounds a bit as if you would recommend not acting on such problems in the first place? …

The main group I use “Can’t be improved” on is blackberries. Here they are all exotic and all growing together and unless the observer has photographed primocane and fruticane and flower and stipules… not much hope of knowing what species it is, so they end “Complex Rubus fruticosus” and after a few…

I think the disagreeing higher level IDs are very confusing. If somebody adds one of those (orange button) on something, I interpret that as a vote against the species ID that was on that observation before, as in: “It most definitely is NOT that species but has to be something else in that genus.” …

[image] agujaceratops: Based on my forum search Thank you for doing some searching around before posting. It’s really appreciated! [image] agujaceratops: not to disagree when evidence is insufficient (e.g., to move a species community ID to the general generic ID) unless you can prove th…

I think your thought process here is good. If you have enough expertise to know that an ID to species (or any other taxonomic level) can’t be made based on the evidence, it’s fair to disagree. I also think it’s fair/courteous to explain your reasoning and source it if needed, since this is how folk…

Like melodi_96 said, I think responses to this are supposed to go into the other thread linked by bouteloua above to keep that conversation there. There have already been a few.

How to act on RG observations that lack evidence for the community ID

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marina_gorbunova September 27, 2020, 11:44am 7

If the observer and iders will withdraw their species-level ids you can revote and the observation will be left at genus and be RG. So unless some serious reasons there’s no need to add disagreements cause who knows, it may be that species too.

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How to act on RG observations that lack evidence for the community ID

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