Insurance for iNat Ambassador events?

A group of iNat Ambassadors in my area regularly do public events such as mothing and hikes. We’ve given our group a name but we’re not a registered charity or anything like that. The walks are generally in city parks.

Do we need insurance in case someone breaks a leg on one of our group hikes?

Some events are sponsored by companies or other nature-related organizations, so we’re included in their insurance. We’re looking into joining up with other more established organizations, but we’re not sure about losing our independence.

If I organize an event as an individual and someone has an accident, can I be sued?

In what country? Usually not. If you meet them like ‘friends’ you don’t need to care about it. Or, do you insure friends?

It’s in Canada.

I’m not talking about ‘friends’, I’m talking about people who have signed up to attend an event advertised as “Come join us on a nature walk and learn about iNaturalist”.

I am not a lawyer and don’t know the laws in Canada.

That said, you may be able to request that they sign a liability waiver which generally protects you, unless you do something really negligent. (There are many downloadable versions, or you could check with a local nature center or other facility and ask to see theirs/what they do.) I often have to sign one before being allowed to go hiking on privately managed land areas; accepting personal responsibility and agreeing not to hold them liable if I get hurt.

if you have them sign up, you could put a note about them assuming all risks etc. in that process. some local preserves i’ve attended events at have done that.

i am curious to see other responses with more knowledge about this topic, though

Maybe iNaturalist could support ambassadors by providing a generic waiver form for these type of events and statements that can be put in the sign up sheet/page.

There are plenty of examples online. Search “hiking waiver” and you’ll see a lot of PDF forms from organizations like the Sierra Club or https://americanhiking.org/assumption-of-risk-and-release-form/

Here is my take. I have some limited experience with this. First, the usual disclaimer, I am not a lawyer blah blah. I live in the United States, and am an employee of the state of North Carolina, so a state government employee. I volunteer with 3-4 nonprofits. I am the volunteer treasurer for our local Audubon chapter, and I helped get our liability insurance years ago.

I do some research on a large tract of private lands. I recently worked with the owners to get a waiver created for someone from “the general public” visiting by my invitation.

My understanding is that in order to “need” liability coverage, you need to be ‘an entity’, which you are not. I mean, you are, a person, but I’m referring to a group e.g. a charitable organization or such. The other consideration is if you are the owner of a large property and invite people onto your land. Your “group” is doing neither, so at least in the U.S. you would not be “liable”. So what IDfanatic said is the basic concept: you are “friends” – it’s the same as if you were having a picnic in your house/yard and invited the neighbors over.

Given your situation, just because you invite someone to do something does not make you liable.

Waivers have been mentioned. The other groups you have worked with are true “groups” and this is why they have people sign a waiver. A waiver, per se, is often considered “poor insurance” but in fact it’s better than not using it. People will sue anyway but when those other companies etc, produce a waiver, it shows that they did “the right thing”, right up front. Again, the liability is to the organization (which again can also be a private landowner).

When I am involved in an Audubon-sponsored program, we normally visit a public site and if a waiver is needed, it is provided by the site owner (e.g. our city Parks Dept provides us with a waiver to use when we do organized hikes). But, an individual can go walk in a city/county/state park without signing a waiver. It’s a bit squishy. But we offer it via our chapter because people, especially in the U.S., love to sue other people.

When our Museum offers an outdoor public program, we make everyone attending sign a waiver.

I mentioned that I work on private land. I also mentor teenagers, and I have volunteers from the general public. I worked with the property owners to generate a waiver for these folks that I bring out. It’s a standard (stupid really) waiver which simply highlights what any outdoorsy, fieldwork person knows (“watch out for…” – it’s common sense but because of how things can go, we have to point out that there are ticks and snakes and ….. ). But we have it and again it shows “due diligence” on our (really the owners) part. (My employer also pays for my background checks for working with youth).

As I have implied, if you were here in the U.S., you would not need insurance, and because you are not a recognized organization, you really don’t need a waiver although it’s fine to create one and try have folks sign it. Some might balk because, again, you are not “an entity” – so in that sense, you have no “right” to ask someone to sign anything. Here in the U.S., if I invited “friends and neighbors” to go on a walk and then asked them to sign a waiver, they would all refuse – and probably get mad.

As I mentioned, in my roles as an employee and volunteer with the Audubon chapter I do some work with underage (<18) youth. With the Audubon chapter, our previous insurer cancelled our coverage a few years ago - no matter how much we might pay – they had decided that they would no longer insure anyone who worked with youth – even just day trips. Touching. So much for “Pass It On…”. This was the Hartford group and after all the stuff with the Catholic Church, Boy Scouts, etc, they decided to stay clear of anyone working with youth. If youth are involved, it’s trickier.

So we found another insurer. Interestingly enough, last month we went to renew and they started asking more questions. First, we had stopped working with youth separate from their parents, which simplifies things. But now, the agent asked if we were organizing walks and stream cleanups and such because if so, they couldn’t insure us. Amazing. Well, we do those things of course – but we do them via our city and county parks departments. And we use their waivers. When we explained this, the agent said “Oh, that’s ok then.” And they renewed our liability policy. Our chapter is an incorporated charitable entity.

Is the same for me. Cant help with NA. But here you walk at YOUR risk. But we have health care so… ask a lawyer

regional organizations are always trying to increase engagement. if these organizations invited an iNat ambassador into their programming, the ambassador could communicate the opportunity to those on iNat while shielded from liability since its the regional organization’s event.

I also believe there is such a thing as on-line friend groups. if you aren’t inviting on-line strangers to your meet-up, i’d think it meets the criteria for a non-organizational meet-up. but i’m certainly not an attorney… and also not a resident of Canada.

appreciate your search for guidance.

Good question. Here in Australia, if Birdlife Australia is involved with a birding outing, we’re covered by their insurance. Likewise, if a local community group, managed by the Shire/Council of that area, we’re covered by their insurance. Clearly I’m going to have to investigate about running events in my region and see if I can get the Shire on board - I know they participate in the Biodiversity Blitz each year.