What’s your take on [observation link removed by staff]? Should it get ID’d as a plant or a beetle? OP didn’t provide any label whatsoever, and the first two ID’ers labelled it as a plant, but it’s three pictures of a beetle on top of a leaf, sequentially zooming in on the beetle. I figured it shoul…

6 against 3 for beetle in the first link. That is clearly the focus of the photos. For @GeolTel I would wait for the observer to chime in.

I agree that whatever is in the exact center of the photo is probably what the observer is trying to observe (pointing phone/camera directly at). This means the beetle is obviously the target even without looking at the other photos. [image] lappelbaum: In this obs neither plant is in the cent…

To be honest in this case, both the plant and beetle are visible. Once one or more identifiers have weighed in, I would let it go to what they went with. It is actually quite annoying when several of us put an ID only to have the observer come along later and ID some other part of the image meanin…

I think in that situation specifically, the beetle is what the OP meant to identify. Generally if there are multiple species in the same picture and it isn’t clear which one OP wants identified, my suggested ID is the one I think is most likely their intention and add the other one as a comment ben…

I know, right? That’s one of the other sides to this. Given the other ID’s, I was hesitant to put the beetle ID - the other posters weren’t wrong about the plant, and OP wasn’t bothered to even provide a coarse ID (of course, maybe it was inadvertent), so why not the plant? What level of OP inattent…

[image] dhasdf: first photo were out of focus, so the observer put a hand behind them to provide a background and help out the autofocus This^ applies to both plants. There are lots of the Eleocharis (the monocot) all over the place. Why photograph the ones right next to a plant that there wa…

It’s remarkable how different everybody’s conclusions can be. On the observation you’re referencing, I too think the poster was going for the specimen that’s being touched. But @dhasdf thinks it’s just as likely to be the monocot. And suddenly - appropriately for the situation, I think - we’re discu…

In that case it’s pretty obvious even from the first picture that OP was interested in the insect, not the plant. The insect is what’s centered, not the plant, and the whole plant is not even in the frame, not even the whole leaf. In cases where there is a landscape with no indication of what’s be…

TLDR Observer - please crop, or tell us which, what?? Indentifier - please - look at all the photos - it may be one of those happy multi-species obs … :sob:

Interesting philosophical discussion - Intuiting OP Intent vs. Research Grade

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tlit46 December 24, 2023, 5:01pm 21

I’m the first ID’er on the observation, and this is exactly what happened. I just wasn’t careful enough to note the progression of photos.

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Interesting philosophical discussion - Intuiting OP Intent vs. Research Grade

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