Hi there. As you all probably know, an ID is marked with the computer vision icon when someone uses computer vision to ID something. I personally don’t like this icon, because it feels like a mark of shame that shows that you might not know what you’re doing. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think badly …

Agreed. We all should get past our egotistical selves and use what tools are available. Amateurs get it wrong sometimes. So do experts. No shame in that.

Sometimes I use it to jog my memory. I see an organism, and I think, “I know that one, what was the name?” I look at the CV suggestion and think, “Oh, yes, that was it.”

[image] jnstuart: No shame in that Agreed. I will often use the CV in the Identify Compare modal to replace my typing. I’ll switch to “Visually Similar” as a “Source” to verify distribution sometimes zooming out on maps to find out if there are likely other possibilities of dopplegängers and …

Sad to see this paper getting reproduced in print media now too with the bad data remaining [IMG_1381]

[image] Mr_Fizzy: It’s nothing strange when someone who makes the observation uses computer vision, but people might get suspicious when you clicked a computer suggestion when IDing someone else’s observation. It makes you look like you’re not very experienced, even though you might have used th…

[image] Mr_Fizzy: What do you think of the computer vision icon? quite a useless example of AI

That leads to a dumpyard (big amount) of mis ids.

Are you aware that CV adds new species every month? iNat staff prefer to use the term Computer Vision, since it is not artificial intelligence. <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=6681&subview=table&taxon_ids=47338,61614,69279,69402,85334,100220,103401,104466,109159,109509,111445,124856,127587,147150,148615,149398,149410,149506,176816,196606,196980,202005,204120,205359,208517,213539,215332,217567,217780,222286,227348,229822,244241,256338,256404,256706,257336,258382,270766,293583,306567,307358,309124,311110,321373,323565,323624,324343,325329,325518,325975,327191,333310,335664,337465,338489,341426,341938,343314,355795,357803,357824,361275,362686,362726,366912,367331,368593,368735,380119,386773,391312,391385,392570,392763,392926,395731,396960,397504,410287,417023,423607,428179,451184,451310,451498,456882,458980,464821,465729,466002,466745,467428,468237,468640,468797,469383,469720,469988,470752,470960,471323,482435,483283,483313,486434,486523,486563,488664,489536,489581,489582,489694,489762,491586,492666,494963,495146,495747,497242,498216,500443,503032,504154,504397,504438,504454,508442,509037,515713,516491,516604,517674,519469,519581,522311,523142,524691,525677,526071,526229,526565,527925,527947,534667,542316,544034,544105,544361,544870,544873,544980,545365,545403,546852,546920,547034,548363,549396,555634,555655,557156,558157,558983,559200,565972,566259,566473,566617,569634,577157,605386,605896,622674,625813,633414,633647,638223,638968,659674,678203,678205,700280,702038,702130,709530,710394,712759,714261,715352,734402,735524,737366,738899,739614,747539,755977,758123,759165,762596,764608,765068,774419,774754,779052,779239,780934,780939,781614,784702,787027,794129,804772,806559,809237,810835,847049,853759,857377,861824,869087,888396,892278,893943,909253,913245,924398,961921,974633,974709,984195,994465,994517,1004742,1008011,1028636,1038765,1038958,1081199,1090463,1090981,1126170,1132022,1136855,1137827,1146699,1169847,1181224,1182945,1287941,1391032,1446992,1447222,1449687&verifiable=any&view=species">23 insect species from India added from 19 February data And for Mr Fizzy in the Netherlands <a href="https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=7506&subview=table&taxon_ids=47338,61614,69279,69402,85334,100220,103401,104466,109159,109509,111445,124856,127587,147150,148615,149398,149410,149506,176816,196606,196980,202005,204120,205359,208517,213539,215332,217567,217780,222286,227348,229822,244241,256338,256404,256706,257336,258382,270766,293583,306567,307358,309124,311110,321373,323565,323624,324343,325329,325518,325975,327191,333310,335664,337465,338489,341426,341938,343314,355795,357803,357824,361275,362686,362726,366912,367331,368593,368735,380119,386773,391312,391385,392570,392763,392926,395731,396960,397504,410287,417023,423607,428179,451184,451310,451498,456882,458980,464821,465729,466002,466745,467428,468237,468640,468797,469383,469720,469988,470752,470960,471323,482435,483283,483313,486434,486523,486563,488664,489536,489581,489582,489694,489762,491586,492666,494963,495146,495747,497242,498216,500443,503032,504154,504397,504438,504454,508442,509037,515713,516491,516604,517674,519469,519581,522311,523142,524691,525677,526071,526229,526565,527925,527947,534667,542316,544034,544105,544361,544870,544873,544980,545365,545403,546852,546920,547034,548363,549396,555634,555655,557156,558157,558983,559200,565972,566259,566473,566617,569634,577157,605386,605896,622674,625813,633414,633647,638223,638968,659674,678203,678205,700280,702038,702130,709530,710394,712759,714261,715352,734402,735524,737366,738899,739614,747539,755977,758123,759165,762596,764608,765068,774419,774754,779052,779239,780934,780939,781614,784702,787027,794129,804772,806559,809237,810835,847049,853759,857377,861824,869087,888396,892278,893943,909253,913245,924398,961921,974633,974709,984195,994465,994517,1004742,1008011,1028636,1038765,1038958,1081199,1090463,1090981,1126170,1132022,1136855,1137827,1146699,1169847,1181224,1182945,1287941,1391032,1446992,1447222,1449687&verifiable=any&view=species">18 insect species from the same February based update End …

I think that computer vision models should look for features; not just assume; like there is a penthicodes warleti, then it will id as atomaria; Instead (as an example) it should suggest genus penthicodes and if spots are visible then it should evaluate (atomaria has 2 spots along the margin of teg…

I must be daft, I have never noticed a CV icon? I had to go look for it. I found it. I thought it was a first ID symbol! Ive never been able to type out a whole name upon upload Im not that great a speller. My uploads probably ALL have that. Even the ones it auto IDd to species from file name it l…

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