Platform(s), such as mobile, website, API, other: Desktop, optionally apps Description of need: After a) reading about/from frustrated identifiers and b) my personal experience uploading: Change the order of species/date/place to place/date/species. That way more people would naturally fill in th…

I am suggesting the difference might [image] pisum: [image] vmoser: Maybe it’s only 1 % now, but 1 % of “more useful” effort might already make a difference. not sure what you’re suggesting here. I am saying the effect might be very small (like 1 %), but even to be more efficient in t…

[image] pisum: other ways to look at the data This is just one anecdotal example. I wonder - if we had a project for species which are Pending for CV. And interested observers were encouraged to ‘add your obs of this for CV’ Then you could evaluate Pending vs Included with each CV update. (Ma…

[image] gcwarbler: [image] rupertclayton: [iNat is about people sharing what they have seen in nature and trying to correctly identify it.] Deciding on a taxon is the output of that identification process I’m afraid I don’t understand this statement. Let me try again. To be clear, I’m …

[image] pisum: [image] vmoser: I think we can improve data quality how do you measure this exactly? if i assume that research grade is the least bad measure of this for looking at the entire dataset, I think the least bad way to measure the benefit of the proposed change would be the A…

[image] vmoser: A better indication of this question is probably understanding the orgin of these 0.5/0.6 Maverick. Seems small exceptionally small. honestly, i’m not sure why anyone would or should bother to analyze this kind of difference. you could hypothesize that the difference here com…

[image] pisum: i don’t know why anyone would waste effort doing an A/B test on this kind of proposed change. just looking at the easily available metrics, you can already see that a different flow for the web uploader to try to improve computer vision suggestions is likely going to have near zer…

I think changing the order could improve the quality of CV suggestions - by how much, I don’t know. Small changes can influence which fields are entered first. My concerns are of consistency (the mobile app shows taxon/date/location, and I think it and the web and mobile apps should match, personal…

[image] tiwane: I’d prefer doing something like allowing text entry in the species field without a date and location, but asking the user to add a date and location before automaticaly showing a CV guess, or making it more explicit that date and location are important for CV suggestions i’d p…

Tangent. Is it possible to find how many obs have 1, or 2, or 3 disagreeing IDs? That more than two thirds rule racks up fast. 1 wrong needs 3 to convince - makes sense. 2 wrong need 5 - why not stay with 3 (especially if the second ID is simply NotAPelargonium - that should = a single disagreem…

One super-simple change would be to simply not invoke CV in the species name field if there is no location set. I agree that it would be better to somehow make it clear that the location should be set first, but doing that involves UI design, and doing this simple change would not, which might be ad…

Switch upload order from species/date/place to place/date/species

Feature Requests

tiwane March 18, 2023, 4:44pm 56

As I said above, we’re investigating other ways to encourage users to add location data before choosing a CV suggestion, we just didn’t want go with this specific approach of switching the order of fields.

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Switch upload order from species/date/place to place/date/species

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