Yes, for a few, especially those that are only female (e.g. Poa wheeleri) or only male (e.g. the liverwort Lunaria cruciata as introduced to the Pacific Northwest of North America.
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You and I might think so, but a LOT of people can’t distinguish between the seed and the fruit, especially in the cases of small fruits such as achenes, caryopses, and cypselae
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I recently discovered there is a “Plant life stage” observation field, and in your example I would probably leave the annotations blank and just use this observation field instead. It has options for seeds and even pollen.
This people calls ‘not a flower’ fruit or seed.
Those are our two choices, if it isn’t no flowers or fruit.
For new to me plants, it is blooming difficult to tell - if that is a bud coming - or a fruit going.
I already covered that in my post.
functionally, it’s still impossible to select both “No flowers[…]” and “Flowers”, but the menu is actually present, just that trying to select a second option gives the[…] “Failed to save record. Please try again later” pop-up
I can understand if this is not a priority to hide the menu upon selection of “No flowers or fruits”, but that is at least how it usd to be. in contrast to now:
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It should be blocking the display and selection of other options if “No Flowers or Fruits” is selected. Can you try again?
It appeared to work correctly just now on this observation.
That is REALLY hard with grasses. Frustrating. Many other plants are easier, fortunately.
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Re: Non-green leaf color. I suspect this is intended for leaves turning color in the fall. However, very young leaves may be red, as in Poison Oak sometimes ( https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/207693042 ) and always in Tracy’s Willow ( https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/224490119 ) and in the form of Photinia serrulata that is commonly planted and occasionally escaped.
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Our exotic garden deciduous, turn to autumn colour. Vineyards and oaks.
But fynbos plants have emerging leaves in vivid colours.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/45624509 - freshly annotated with ColoUred Leaves.
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A big step forward for the scientific community would be to use scientific names at first and common names between brackets. With the common names it is always problematic to find the records that I need to check.
You can change your settings in the “Content & Display” tab so it does display this way.
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it’s still not working that way for me. I cannot successfully select one of the other phenology options, just as intended, but they do appear as menu entries.
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This sounds like a bug. It looks like you clicked on this observation. Which browser are you using? I am using Chrome Version 124.0.6367.210.
What if “No Flowers or Fruits” is the wrong answer.
Sometimes the answer is not readily apparent and it takes close scrutiny to find the flower or fruit.
Agreed, please leave the sex annotations. Especially important for phenology overlap between male and female dioecious plants, monoecious too. It may seem like there would be strong timing overlap but not always.
I am supervising a phenology project and the difference between male pollen maturity and stigma receptiveness is not completely synchronized. It is nice to not only view this from observations photos but also from the annotation choices. Thank you ~ Gail
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I totally disagree. For my PhD research, I annotated 1000s of observations and anything that was past flowering I marked as fruiting to distinguish it from presumed vegetative observations that showed no evidence of reproductive organs. It worked great as it showed when the various taxa were past flower and separated those from observations with no reproductive structures. As far as ripeness of fruit goes, that seems maybe better as an observation field specific to certain plant groups, especially as there is no hard line in most groups between various fruit stages and it is impossible to tell what stage the fruit may be in for most taxa. The only difficult choice I had was when there was clear fruit on a plant from the previous year, which I chose not to include as fruiting as it messed up the phenology data.
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Thank you for all the identifying and (now) annotating you do – but I don’t think this should be annotated in this case. The definition says “At least one leaf or needle has late season or drought color”.
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Won’t the phenology get confused if autumn equals drought, and vice versa.
What about plants whose ‘green = normal’ leaves are grey, or purple or glaucous.
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If sex isn’t being removed for plants after all, could you please put it last on the taxon page charts since in the vast majority of species it’s either blank, irrelevant, or inaccurate?
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if it is a bug, it nevertheless appears in all browsers for me. I tested it in Firefox v127.0 and some browsers built on Chromium v126.0.6478.114.