Can anyone tell me why this one is classed as casual, please?
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/why-is-this-observation-casual-needs-id-research-grade-official-thread/13186
Cause of vote as good as it can be.
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I tried all the things mentioned in the official thread and I still donât understand why this observation is Casual: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71053731
What am I missing?
Community taxon is above genus, has multiple IDâs and the âNo it cant be improvedâ is selected. It canât get to RG at that high a level, so it goes to casual to get it out of the needs ID pool.
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Because the picture isnât the best, the community has determined that because of the photo quality the bat canât be identified to species level. This had led to someone from the community marking the observation as the best it can get, therefore making your observation casual.
This is technically not true. Observations with this flag voted on can reach Research Grade, for example https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/39370385
However, in order to do so, the community id must be at the genus level or lower (Im not 100% sure what qualifies with all the semi-formal ranks like tribe,subtibe etc). It is what level this record is in combination with the cant be improved flag causing the casual status.
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I hope one day family level can be RG or any other status too, I have an urge to mark all those countless thousands of unidentifiable Poaceae and get them out of Needs Id.
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As discussed above, the threshold is not genus, rather it must be below family.
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Doh. I looked for âas good as it can getâ but apparently missed it. I donât mind that itâs casual, since I agree thereâs not much info in the picture. I was just glad I could see itâs a bat.
I was being more specific with what I was saying, only talking about their observation. But yes, I agree with your points.
Why is this observation Casual?
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/72025513
and this observation Needs Id
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/72071436
Something wrong with copied Sound observations?
it shows as RG for me
If an observation is of a taxon that is only seen as captive/cultivated nearby, then the system will default apply that designation. I think it may be what happened to that particular observation, but someone else has put an ID and made it go RG, along with a ton of DQA votes that would mask what the auto designation would have been.
[edit] but it doesnât look like a taxon for which that would happen⌠so Iâm not sure
If I copy it now it is not casual but ââneeds Idââ, what I expectedâŚ
But the original sound, with two Identifications, is now Casual.
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71949899
Observation is https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/60858850
5 people have IDâd it as the same species, there are no other IDâs, and no âdata qualityâ flags have been marked.
Yes vote in the can the identification still be improved. Why it is there, I have no idea, but that is the cause.
The vote was made by the observer, I suspect he thought that was the only way to get others to identify it.
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I may have overlooked this discussion in this or another thread, but does anyone have a prepared response for when the observer correctly IDs to species level but then checks âYesâ on the âcan be improvedâ box? It seems presumptive to check âNoâ without knowing their reasons for checking it, but itâs difficult to succinctly explain the purpose of this box and often hard to determine whether an expert will be able to ID to subspecies level. This often leads to research-grade-worthy observations accruing redundant IDs while remaining âneeds IDâ
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