I have many Weeet jji wat hier gebeurt is https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15586511 and years ago nothing was wrong with this, a normal observation and without UNKKNOWN and a without PLACEHOLDER
There could be a few thousnad
Should this link have a photo?
https://observation.org/observation/134040072/
Is that where the problem lies?
maybe ahospers means that the observations had a species ID - were linked to a species entry before?
maybe something changed with the species? https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/953476-Brachanthemum-kirghisorum
In Belarus i got several (hunderds?) of remarks but it used not to be a problem and last month i only saw it for observations without photos, which is normal for this kind of observations ( https://observation.org/observation)
As far as i know there were normal species in 2018-2021)
This was this morning, but it used to have, years ago(2018-2020(2021)), no problem
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?nelat=43.26535693037999&nelng=80.22815137065733&place_id=any&swlat=39.18097259635649&swlng=69.26406016855596&user_id=ahospers&verifiable=any
In Belarus there also should be serveral, but they were harder to find than expected https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15658167
Are you missing a photo, are you refering to the placeholder?
I have something comparable, but that had a second id and the photo was missing, probably disappeared.
This could also be an incompleet upload of the record by an app.
@tiwane: Can iNat staff look at this? From what I can tell there seems to be a data issue where old observations by @ahospers that presumably had photos and existing IDs (plus links to https://observation.org records) have now become Unknown, with no IDs and only placeholder text.
Itâs unclear to me that the observations used to have photos. @ahospers can you confirm if part of the issue is that photos which were previously present are now missing or is the issue confined to whether the observations have an actual ID vs an ID in placeholder text.
I agree with @cthawley itâs not clear to me what the exact issue is - did the observations ever have actual IDs and/or actual photos on observation.org?
No they were normal observations without photos and than changed into placeholder, certainly the ones in Kirgizie as i added them by hand and i do not think they ever had additonal IDs or addition photos.
So photos from observation.org have it and also photos i added by hand. for Kirgizie. Most are added automatically. I thought there were also many in Belarus a few month a go. the have the PLACEHOLDEr and UNKNOW status while at least many of them should have had the normal observatoin status, at least tthe ones fro Kirigzie, they are added by hand.
No, it is very unlikly that they had photos but they have changed in to placeholder were some just have normal valid latin names (may by valid latin name â unvalid latin name â again valid latin name)
Looking at our backup from this past Saturday and doing some spot checking, these all have placeholders, so if something did happen it happened before then. Without knowing exactly when this might have happened, we canât really look through any log files.
Thank you for your effort, i only can tell you it probably happend after 2020 and i only saw it when people from Belarus made a lot of marks in spring 2023 on my observations.
From the Kirgizie observations i am sure they were normal without placeholders from Belarus i was surprised that they were placeholders but not fully certain. I think all observations never had photos (and never had confirming ids)
i suspect these never had IDs to begin with. in this particular case, note that your placeholder shows âsubsp.â, whereas i would expect the usual convention in the system to be âssp.â
hereâs another observation showing placeholder for Corydalis saccata, which turns up no results if you search for it, suggesting it never existed in the system: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15586590.
I think if they are added around 17 aug. 2018, you can imagine what happend around that time.
No, it think, but i do not know, they were normal observations about that time. 99% of my observations without photos will be about aug 2018 but this one is not https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6968365
The first three i found did exist in the system.
* Disabled Location Picker, which isnât working yet in Android
How can if see the old name of https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15515161 (google.com)
You can also add .json to the end of the URL and look for the field "species_guess"
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15515161.json
"species_guess":"**Cepaea nemoralis forma P123(45)**"
spatie
I put up an observation and gave it an ID of âQuercus roburtâ (deliberate mis-spelling to make it an obvious placeholder)
.json shows the species_guess as âQuercus roburtâ
I add an ID of Quercus robur (valid taxa ID) and it shows the binomial and vernacular.
.json now shows species_guess as âPedunculate oakâ (the vernacular for Quercus robur)
I withdraw the Q. robur ID and the placeholder of âPedunculate oakâ is displayed.
.json continues to show species_guess as âPedunculate oakâ
No matter what ID I apply, it has itâs vernacular replace the placeholder, and there appears to be no way to find the original placeholder
No where in the .json is the âQuercus roburtâ that I originally entered, so it is gone for good!
his, itâs a fairly common misunderstanding that people donât realize their placeholders are not actually âfor realâ with respect to the siteâs database. They donât see it as Unknown in their own observation list; they see the placeholder text.
as I noticed a placeholder before. When Iâve withdrawn the ID, the placeholder returns, so it seems to be somewhere. I then copy and paste into my ID comments when I re-ID it
aceholder text is still available somewhere. I was going through Unknowns and the instant I hit Save on a phylum level identification, I saw there was placeholder text (itâs tiny & light gray and my eyes arenât so good), which was then gone. I withdrew my identification and the placeholder text came back.
VERY GOOD !!
iNaturalist Observations Updates (jumear.github.io)
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?iconic_taxa=unknown&user_id=ahospers&place_id=any
Is there no way to find all my placeholders ? Till now i did not succeed and this one is not giving the results i want https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?iconic_taxa=unknown&user_id=ahospers&place_id=any
Further https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/15586513 does have a valid name âAllium leucosphaerumâ
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/6968365 âKransgrasâ
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