Phantom observations for annotation

Platform: Windows 11

App version number, if a mobile app issue: n/a

Browser, if a website issue: Chrome

URLs (aka web addresses) of any relevant observations or pages: https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/taxa/59831-Loranthaceae

https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations/identify?reviewed=any&quality_grade=needs_id%2Cresearch&taxon_id=59831&without_term_id=12&month=2

Screenshots of what you are seeing:

Description of problem:

Step 1: Go to taxon page for Loranthaceae (59831)

Step 2: Using gear wheel, go to “Add Annotations for Flowers and Fruits”

Step 3: Set month to January (or February) and annotate all observations. Identify page shows no more matching observations. Check taxon page and find 17 observations still listed for each of January or February.

is there really a bug here?

in the Identify page, uncheck reviewed, and check the casual filter.

As far as I know, casual observations don’t show in the Flowers and Fruits chart. But the numbers (17 each month) also don’t match the casual observations, which are zero for January and five for February.

when i said check “casual”, this assumes that you started with your link above, which also checks “needs id” and “research”. checking all of these will get all observations.

in February, there are 12 that are needs id or casual + 5 casual = 17.

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This, perhaps, is where the bug is. If I select Casual + Needs ID + Research Grade to annotate for flowers and fruit (&without_term_id=12) in February, I see only 5; the other 12 are not visible to me. If I do the same for January, which has 17 observations to annotate on the Flowers and Fruit chart, I see zero.

Can someone also clarify whether Casual observations show on the Flowers and Fruit chart?

they are. this is the request: https://api.inaturalist.org/v2/observations/popular_field_values?taxon_id=59831&per_page=50&place_id=cc29ae85-7efc-47c0-9271-4032a624ab45&unannotated=true&fields=(controlled_attribute%3A(excepted_taxon_ids%3A!t%2Cid%3A!t%2Clabel%3A!t%2Ctaxon_ids%3A!t)%2Ccontrolled_value%3A(excepted_taxon_ids%3A!t%2Cid%3A!t%2Clabel%3A!t%2Ctaxon_ids%3A!t)%2Ccount%3A!t%2Cmonth_of_year%3Aall%2Cunannotated%3Aall)

since it doesn’t filter for verifiable or quality_grade, you’re going to get everything, including casual.

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Thanks! That’s great to know. Some of my best phenology records are on planted mistletoes, so I would hate for them to be missing from the chart.

At the same time, I note that if you use the link from the taxon page to annotate, it excludes casual observations by default.

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Can I please note that this bug remains unsolved? Certain observations are not visible to me for annotation. The separate answer about whether casual observations appear in the phenology chart does not address this.

for what it’s worth, this is what i see (17 observations) when i go to https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations/identify?reviewed=any&quality_grade=needs_id%2Cresearch%2Ccasual&taxon_id=59831&without_term_id=12&month=2 :

Thanks. This now makes sense. I can’t see those observations for annotation because a user has blocked me. I didn’t think of that.

Happy to accept this as resolved now.

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