The xylaria hypoxilon location issues

the genus xylaria hypoxilon is a mainly american species of fungus that has been miss id’ed multiple times as the regular genus. most of the observations that i have been seeing are not just xylaria hypoxilon but xylaria hypoxilon complex. there is a huge difference!

  1. there is a difference in shape for the complex, but for regular hypoxilon the shape is consistent
  2. complex xylaria hypoxilon has more variation than regular hypoxilon. regular hypoxion is only 2-3 black antlers topped with white powder.
  3. the complex can have more than three antlers and can be fully white.
    a few examples of complex: (second photo) ( cuplike) (too many ridges and no antlering)
    non complex: (mature version) (fully antlered) (immature version)
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I have no idea, but I would agree that the ‘common’ understanding needs to be revisited…

Dig in here if you’d like.
Xylaria (rough filter).

Your morphological differentiations are doubtful. For example, the epitype designated by Stadler et al. clearly shows specimens with less or more antlers (Stadler et al, 2014). How have you found these differential characters?

I would like to add that Xylaria hypoxylon is originally described from Europe and therefore describing it as a mainly American species can be misleading. It seems that it’s at least present in North America but without more in depth morphological and genetic studies it’s difficult to tell what is its true geographical extent.

For the observations you linked:
111873140: I agree it’s not Xylaria hypoxylon as the teleomorphic and anamorphic stages are morphologically different and it’s geographically isolated from the type.
111897681: Those are probably old specimens. It’s common to find them opened like this as the interior disappear quicker than the exterior.
111414254: I don’t know if these criteria are differential. It could also be specific variation. Peršoh et al. don’t use the ridges for differentiation (Peršoh et al., 2009).
108768950: This is possibly another species but I’m don’t want to affirm without the teleomorph. It’s distant from the type so I would prefer this option.
109141214: This one is definitely not Xylaria hypoxylon. Ecology and teleomorphic stage doesn’t fit the species.

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Yes, that’s the case for many fungal species. The problem is that it needs to be backed by studies and it’s currently not really the case for Xylaria hypoxylon. The studies around this complex are still just preliminary studies.

Yah, makes sense.
There are definitely more than one that seems curious around here… (Jackrogersella)

Thanks for the reply!

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i have studied xylaria hypoxilon since i started inaturalist in 2019. thank you for the information about the identifications though! i have learned these characteristics by identifying xylaria hypoxilon and studying what the forms look like. so that’s how i found the characteristic differences, and i am okay with being wrong in my identifying. it just means i have a lot to learn!

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