Beach Naupaka showing up as "introduced" in Hawai'i

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Step 1: Look at observations of Scaevola taccada (beach naupaka) in Hawai’i

Step 2: Hover over the pink exclamation mark

Step 3: It says “introduced in United States”; however this plant is native to Hawai’i

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Any user can change establishment mean, just go to the checklist and change it yourself. This isn’t a bug.

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This is saying it’s native to Hawai’i so I still think it might be a bug. https://www.inaturalist.org/places/hawaii#q=Scaevola%2Btaccada

Edit: I think what’s happening is it being introduced in the United States is overriding it being native to Hawai’i even though the mainland US is irrelevant to this observation.

Yes, that’s how the system works, see here for a few more details.

Within the bounds of the current system, you need to remove the introduced status for the US and make sure it’s marked introduced in each relevant state (possibly just Texas and Florida? I don’t know the introduced range).

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Okay, thank you both!

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This is a good solution for this for now. But the topic does raise a valid issue. Because it means this scenario is true of all native Hawaii plant and animal wildlife, and many or most users don’t know it works this way, and it may be very time consuming to correct all those. Ideally one further solution (which would require changing the site) would be location definitions which could be used for the US and contiguous US. Or if not to done, I’d even prefer arbitrarily defining Hawaii as a “country” to avoid the issue here. Plus Hong Kong is already defined as country (in Identify at least, even if a different area of the site), despite not being defined that way in other sources.

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Similar to taxonomy where we try to follow external authorities, we follow GADM for our standard places, which are broken down politically.

Personally, as someone born and raised in Hawaii, I’ll say people often don’t think it’s an actual “real” US state (I’ve been asked by people at very prestigious colleges if we use US currency in Hawaii, for example) and I wouldn’t want to further that confusion any. But yes, it’s weird having Hawaii be under the US on iNat and be so different ecologically. There are always going to be compromises as iNat deals with both non-humans plus humans and all the baggage we bring along with us.

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