Search help - excluding places

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Hello. I’m hoping someone would be able to help me understand how to use the &not_in_place= search. I’m taking a trip to Utah soon and I’d like to get a general sense of what species I could see there that aren’t in my home state of California.

I know CA is place 14 and utah is place 52 but I cant get this url to exclude California species.

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=52&not_in_place=14&subview=map&view=species

I’m curious if I made a mistake or if this is not something thats possible to search for.

Id appreciate any help, thank you!

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that query won’t do anything because California isn’t nested inside Utah. That term is designed to exclude smaller places within larger places, eg you might say place_id=1&not_in_place=14, which would be observations from the USA but not from California

but even if it did work like you’re currently trying to employ it, it wouldn’t quite do what you want, because this query excludes observations rather than species, so if something occurred in both states, you’d still see it

try searching for https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=52&&unobserved_by_user_id=fexcad, see if that does what you’d like

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depending on what you’re trying to do, this may be relevant, too: https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/species-found-in-one-place-but-not-in-another/71706.

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i am not sure where i am doing wrong for that filter:

https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/identify?reviewed=any&quality_grade=needs_id%2Cresearch&iconic_taxa=Mollusca&place_id=6681&not_in_list_id=6982

i am trying to see Indian mollusc IDs not in India checklist

https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/6982-India-Check-List?q=cyclophorus

as you see the checklist doesnt have C. punctatus but that is not popping up with that filter, while there exist IDs of it from India - https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=6681&preferred_place_id=6681&taxon_id=87776&view=species

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it’s because the Indian checklist has some higher-than-species-level taxa in the list: https://www.inaturalist.org/check_lists/6982-India-Check-List?view=taxonomic&rank=all. i’m not sure why the India checklist has, say, Animalia, but the Kentucky checklist doesn’t. so if you can’t trust the India checklist for this purpose, then you could create your own list or use some other method, depending on what you’re trying to accomplish.

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