Hi, do any of you upload no photo observations? I personally don’t because I don’t figure it is useful data if there is no photos. What is y’all’s thoughts ?
The only reason that I could see people doing that is just to document a certain species for themselves. I wouldn’t think that it could be useful to anyone else so I don’t do it. If I find something that I can’t get a photo of I will make lists in other places to not take up space on the website. If I submit something I want it to be able to be used by other people.
I personally have never uploaded photoless observations to iNat. As @eligug08 suggested, lots of people do it for their own personal records.
Let’s say I see a Bonaparte’s Gull fly over quickly, but I don’t have time to snap a photo. I would just upload that ovservation to eBird, since eBird does not require photo-verified observations. Since I have eBird to keep all of my bird records, I personally don’t need to add a photoless observation of it to iNat…it would never get to Research Grade anyways, since there is no proof.
However, let’s say I observe a Black Bear in my city of London, Ontario - a species which is extremely rare here. Since I obviously can’t record it on eBird (LOL), I would definitely choose in this case to upload a photoless observation of it (with a location) to iNat. This way, it can be at least documented publicly with a detailed description.
I have not been in the position yet to document photoless observations of a rare species that I am unable to photograph, but I would defintiely not rule out that method going forward.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the feedback!
I do it for personal records and state so in the notes for the observation. They’re usually species I don’t normally see so they show up in the species list of what I’ve seen that year.
Is there a way to search for one’s observations that don’t contain any media?
Not that I am aware of, no. Under “Filters”, there are places to select whether you want photo- or sound-observations, but no place to select media-less observations.
If you select the button “Has Photos”, you’ll notice that it appends the web address after inaturalist.org/observations?
with photos&
preceding whatever pre-existing search filters were set. You can manually edit the web address to photos=false&
to invert the filter. (The &
is necessary to split each search filter in the address, don’t need multiple in a row, just don’t accidentally remove it). This applies to any positive search filters that don’t have a negative option in the UI.
Really! Wow. Good to know.
I had a strong suspicion that a handcrafted url could be constructed. I have a document full of various search urls for iNat and I mostly know how to amend them once given the bones.
Edit to add: I didn’t get it to work. If I add false to photos, I get up all the obs with only audio. If I add a audio=false& to the url, I get no results and I’m fairly confident I have at least 2. I might have to try to track them down later to reassure myself that my memory is correct! :-)
Make sure the “verifiable” filter is unchecked: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?photos=false&sounds=false&user_id=mmmiller&verifiable=any
I don’t think that observations with no photos are very useful at all (unless it’s a sound recording).
Is there a way that you know of to change how many observations are displayed per page while in the “Identify” tab? I’ve looked a bit, but have found no good answer.
I don’t, because it an observation can’t be research grade with no photo, and a non-RG observation isn’t too useful.
Some people may put up photoless observations to document species they don’t have photos of, particularly species seen before joining iNaturalist. This would make it possible to have a complete list of all the species you have observed, even if the photoless ones remain stuck at casual. I thought about doing this myself at some point but decided against it. Couldn’t be bothered.
Yes, add this to the url for example to get 100 observations:
…identify?per_page=100
There is a maximum, but I don’t know what it is and can’t immediately find the info.
I’ve submitted just a few no-photo/ no-audio records, all birds, for rarities I encountered years ago before iNat existed. Oh, also a wolf sighting. These are obviously Casual and just for my own reference.
I very much agree.
Thanks @everyone for sharing your thoughts.
It still shows observations, but it doesn’t seem to change the number of them. It will show different observations, but only the ones that need an ID. When I mark the box to display Research Grade observations instead, my edit automatically reverts to the original.