Deleting 1 of 2 comments should not unfollow observation

I made 2 comments on someone else observation.
Later, on the website:

  • I see I am following this observation, I see “Unfollow observation” in the menu “Follow”, and I see the same after refreshing the page (F5),
  • I delete 1 of these 2 comments,
  • I see I don’t follow anymore this observation, I see “Follow observation” in the menu “Follow”, and I see the same after refreshing the page (F5).

Since I still have 1 comment in this observation page, I should still be following it, but I’m no longer doing so:

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Much the same thing is seen with IDs - if you have two IDs on an observation and delete one, that seems to untick ‘reviewed’ (and probably ‘following’ but I haven’t checked) - at least if you’re doing it from the Identify page. But it shouldn’t…

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That seems expected to me? How do you have two IDs on an observation?

by withdrawing, adding an id, then backpedalling and restoring the old id, then deleting the more recent id

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Or typing a new ID without realising that your initial ‘i’ to add an ID didn’t work, so when you reach an ‘a’, you’re agreeing instead of disagreeing. In such cases I’ll sometimes add a new ID, then go back and delete the one I never meant to leave - and doing things in that order means it’s no longer marked ‘reviewed’, even though I still have a valid ID.

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Since iNat is ‘erratic’ after activity, I check and decide each time. Follow ? Or not any more ?

gosh, yes. It’s not just me, eh. That’s good to hear. It happens so often for whatever reason! (the i not triggering)

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I always delete the old ID first if that happens to me, so I haven’t noticed this. But yes it does seem like an issue.

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Yes, following and reviewed are both unchecked for deleting IDs. It has done this for a long time. It adds steps to forcing “…disagrees that this is…” to be precise in saying what it actually counts as. Even with your ID before or after, deleting a comment also unfollows.

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Ouch! I’ll have to start paying more attention…

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This seem not great. What would be the most useful behavior? Upon ID or comment deletion, continue to follow an observation if you still have either a remaining comment or an active ID?

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I actively UNfollow.

Would prefer not to have to remember to keep following. I will unfollow when I am no longer interested.

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Continuing to follow if I have an active ID or remaining comment would definitely be my preference - and the behaviour I would have expected.

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Yes !

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I think this may be the same issues as this older bug:

https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/deleting-a-withdrawn-id-marks-the-observation-as-unreviewed-even-though-an-additional-id-was-already-made/12957/1

If so, if the issue is fixed, both could be closed.

No, my request is not about the status “Reviewed”.

Yes, I should have said “same or closely related”. The issues seem to be occurring together, as

I’m not sure exactly how following and reviewed are set by the system, but it seems circumstantially likely that the same mechanism is affecting both reviewed and followed in this case - the reports seem to describe the same non-optimal/unintuitive behavior, just for followed vs. reviewed. I would argue (as in the report I linked), that an observation should remain both followed and reviewed if there is an active ID or comment on it. In fact, one could argue that an observation should remain reviewed even if all IDs and comments are deleted (but I’m not looking to address that) If staff are fixing the behavior of followed with comment/ID deletion, they can probably also address what may be the same (or at least closely related) past report for reviewed as well.

Yes, they are likely related. But one might have been fixed and not the other one, so no reason to close this one now.

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I have not closed or proposed to close this report unless the issue is fixed? Only this report has received attention from staff to look into it (not the five year old one I linked to above). Mentioning the five year old one here is a way to potentially address that languishing report at the same time as this active one. It is unclear to me why you object to my linking the other report and attempting to promote the resolution of both?

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It has not been fixed, I haven’t made an issue for our engineers yet. So far I’ve just been gathering feedback about what people would want to happen in these situations.

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