Disagreeing higher IDs changed to agreeing due to taxon swap

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https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/107156155
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/86276555

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The former planthopper superfamily Fulgoroidea was split into Fulgoroidea s.s. and Cixioidea. Consequently old Fulgoroidea IDs were changed to Fulgoromorpha. In doing so, disagreeing IDs using Fulgoroidea were replaced with nondisagreeing ones of Fulgoromorpha, causing old incorrect species IDs to resurface. One has to manually add an additional disagreeing ID in order to clear them out. This particular species is a problem because it’s an invasive species in several places but the CV keeps incorrectly choosing it for almost any planthopper.

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This is a known issue. I don’t know if it qualifies as a bug but at least there’s a workaround that can be used to restore the disagreeing IDs after the fact. The problem can occur as a result of the simplest taxon change, such as name change.

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Observations in genus Rubus that had some nonsensical (typically CV-assisted) ID to an unlikely species sometimes received disagreeing ID’s as Rubus fruticosus Complex. After Rubus fruticosus Complex was swapped to Section Rubus https://www.inaturalist.org/taxon_changes/122502, the ID’s are no longer disagreeing and the observations again show up with the incorrect species name.

E.g.:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/132000618
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/106016680

this probably should be merged with https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/disagreeing-higher-ids-changed-to-agreeing-due-to-taxon-swap/39096

there are also other previous threads discussing the same thing:

It is certainly quite vexing. I am currentoy the top identifier of Rubus armeniacus in my country although I have never seen it and never issued it as an ID. It is quite rare but CV insists on IDing every other bramble using this name.