Exclude "captive/cultivated" from a project

Hello,

I am currently managing a project collecting mammalia observations in Luxembourg: https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/mammalia-luxembourg

I wold like to convert it to a collection project to not need to add every observation manually.

However I want to exclude all “non-wild” observations (to not get pets: dogs, cats, cows etc.). This is currently not an option to only put “wild” observations into the project. The only thing I can do at the moment is to “exclude” every species that is a typical domestic species, it would however be more useful to simply exclude every non-wild observation.

This is what I would get when not excluding non-wild ones: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=137976&taxon_ids=40151&verifiable=any&without_taxon_id=43583

This is what I get when adding “wild” to the same search: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?captive=false&place_id=137976&taxon_ids=40151&verifiable=any&without_taxon_id=43583

This option is available in the normal search but not in defining a project.

if you are talking about things specifically marked as ‘wild’, you might not want to do that. Since wild is the default unless marked otherwise, people generally leave the field blank.

If you untick the box for “Casual” observations in your project, that should work, I think?

One way to do it is to remove the “Must be wild” rule from your current project and, once you have converted to a collection project, allow only Verifiable and Research Grade observations. A verifiable observation has a date, location, media evidence, and is not marked captive/cultivated. So this would remove anything marked as captive/cultivated from the project and prevent anything marked captive/cultivated from being added to it. It would also, however, prevent any casual grade observation from being included in the project.

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I suspect this may intentionally be an old style project as it states it is submitting data to a government agency, which likely means they want any obscured locations.

@cmcheatle yes so far it is intentionally a “old style” project, mainly because we wanted to also include “casual” observations. We rarely have any obscured locations however.

@charlie I was talking about thinks that are by default “wild”, not observations that are marked as wild. With the normal search function one can choose “wild” or “captive”, the first excluding everything that is “cultivated/captive”.

As a group we wanted to have a tool to record observations without images (some species are obvious ti ID in the region - hogshead, squirrel etc. - but hard to photograph).

@deboas @tiwane I however want to include any observation (also casual, because having no image) into the project. I only wanted to exclude anything that is “captive/cultivated”.

I guess the project will stay an “old style” project for now. Maybe in the future collection projects will allow more refined searches.

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I’m also experiencing the same issue. I manage a small project that is focused on documenting the wildlife in Baltimore’s Inner Harbor. The National Aquarium is within the project boundaries so I’d like to exclude the captive observations people make of the animals in the building. I’d imagine nature centers or similar facilities might also have this problem. https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/waterfront-park-at-the-national-aquarium

It includes all captive and wild observations now: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&project_id=waterfront-park-at-the-national-aquarium&verifiable=any

Versus the wild only: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?captive=false&place_id=any&project_id=waterfront-park-at-the-national-aquarium&verifiable=any

I already switched over to a new collection project without realizing that I wouldn’t be able to make a rule to exclude “captive/cultivated.” I also do not want to exclude the casual observations because we are often making observations with students who are doing citizen science for the first time and don’t always get a photo of the birds before they fly away. I’ll just use the search tool workaround for now.

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Update. I found a different solution. Looking more closely at the observations made of species within the aquarium, it was only a small handful of users that uploaded them. I set up an exclusion rule for those specific usernames (after making sure they hadn’t made observation of wild animals as well) which removed the captive fish I wanted to exclude from the project. Not sure if that’s the case in your project for the domestic cats and dogs but may be worth looking into. Hope that helps.

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Hey, thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I do not think this is a good solution for me excluding specific users. But I may look into it and see if it is maybe possible to exclude certain species (cats and dogs).

thanks for the advice

@paul_luap So would these hypothetical settings work for you, then?

yes @tiwane this would be exactly what I am looking fir. The “exclude captive/cultivated” is what I’m missing sofar.

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OK, I’ll see if this is something we can do.

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