iNaturalist and Wikipedia

Hmm … OK, so how about:

Ways to help improve iNaturalist taxon pages through Wikipedia

  • A good way to quickly note an issue you’ve spotted with a Wikipedia taxon page (if you’re not going to update the page directly, which is preferable when you can) is to add a note to its Talk page.
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Of relevance to people following this discussion: https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/creating-missing-wikipedia-articles-for-inats-observations-of-the-week/18057

Cassi, I read through this thread hoping to find out how often iNat updates from the Wikipedia articles. I tried to find out in the help, but no luck there. And, is there a way to request that one be manually updated if it hasn’t been yet?

I thought in the wikidata threads stood that wikipedia articles are cached for a week. And I agree that after some weeks a redirect worked…
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/use-wikidata-to-link-to-appropriate-wikipedia-articles-in-all-languages/5538/24?u=optilete

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A small group of volunteers have been meeting online to write Wikipedia articles together starting from observations from iNaturalist. This lead to the Wikipedia Weekly Biodiversity edition, for which we will have our 2nd episode on March 27 (CET)/March 28 (NZT). Like with our zoom sessions earlier we will select a species not yet covered on Wikipedia and together create the article for that species (sometimes in multiple languages). Everybody is welcome to join us in this live session through the chat channel and help us grow the article(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN77-GiJ2JA

The first episode where we worked on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hylaeus_relegatus is available here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhObYsuy37Q

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i m just watching the first episode (i m on half way yet), i got confused by topics jumping here and there and some talks etc. since it was my first time user creation on wiki things too. when you click things for the first time, i got different pages and all then shown in video. but i think i made my first template creation on wikipedia, and item creation on wikidata for “Celosia argentea var. plumosa” just as trial.

now, i need to find the tool for image upload from iNat, also learn how to add the iNat taxon ID to wikidata when it didnt created before. then i ll be on my way helping on this too :slightly_smiling_face:

ps: the page i created on wikipedia appearantly need a review before published
edit: got how to add iNat taxon to wikidata too yaay :upside_down_face:

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Just so you know: you don’t have to limit it to living languages, either. There are Wikipedia articles written in dead languages. For example: Pīntrēow (can you tell what language it is?)

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the thorn is Icelandic?

The thorn was once used in more languages than just Icelandic. You are in the right linguistic clade, though.

I frequently use the Wikipedia template suggestion from iNaturalist when there is not yet a Wikipedia article on the species observed. (e.g. https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/70357-Eurydema-dominulus). I am getting some pushback for the parent taxon parameter in that template https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Andrawaag#parent_parameter_in_taxoboxes. I personally like the explicitness given that there is not always consensus between resources on what the parent is, but I can also see that this can be an issue, given no reference is given in the infobox.

I am wondering if is not better to remove the parent field from the template and deal with the disagreement in the Wikipedia article itself.

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see discussion here https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/fix-taxobox-parameters-in-create-this-page-on-wikipedia-prompt/18395

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For Jumping Spiders, i would recommend Portia a for species, see Portia fimbriata

Just a question, does anybody here use CC-BY-NC licenses?

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Sure, plus it’s the default.

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You can see several posts and discussions about the noncommercial photo license incompatibility with Wikimedia projects here:

https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/reuse-inaturalist-observations-on-wikipedia/27493
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/why-using-cc-licenses-is-awesome/3149
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/improving-inaturalist-data-sharing-with-wikimedia-resources/7610
https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-case-for-changing-the-default-license-to-not-include-a-nc-clause/18690

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I do not ever use these licenses, and furthermore, I generally object to the use of any licenses with NC clauses, because they are misleading and legally problematic for a long list of reasons. @bouteloua has already linked to the thread where I explain why (thanks much for linking to it!), but here’s the direct link in case you want to hear my full reasoning it is this thread:

https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/a-case-for-changing-the-default-license-to-not-include-a-nc-clause/18690

This is an issue I feel pretty strongly about. Like if I were to think of any one issue I would prioritize to change about iNaturalist, it would be this one. One of the reasons I feel so strongly is that the status quo seems extreme, i.e. it’s not just that we allow users to choose these licenses, they are the default license, and the signup process uses language that strongly recommends using them in a way that ignores their problems.

At a minimum, I would want the language surrounding the licenses around signup changed. I would strongly prefer them not being the default license.

If I were to have exactly what I want on the issue, it would be to remove the option of any of the NC licenses on the site. I personally don’t like these licenses being used anywhere.

I also dislike ND licenses; they prevent really basic stuff like cropping photos or changing lighting, which makes them have limited usefulness for scientific and educational purposes. If I were running things I would leave only public domain, CC-BY, and CC-BY-SA; anyone who doesn’t want these could leave their images copyrighted.

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