maize in Italy, maize in central Mexico. Olive in California, olive in Tunisia. Both examples are domesticated species, the 1st place is out of native area, the 2nd place is part of center of origin. And biologically and genetically they are domesticated species, where ever they occur, so for iNat the decision would be a species level one?
It doesn’t matter if a species is domesticated, only if the individual organism is captive or cultivated. Place of origin is also not a factor. An olive tree on an olive plantation in Tunisia would be considered cultivated because someone planted it. Now, if a bird ate an olive from a plantation tree and pooped out the seed somewhere, the tree growing from that seed would not be considered captive on iNaturalist. So disregard the taxon and think about the individual organism. See more on this FAQ: https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#captive
Now, one caveat (taken verbatim from the FAQ @bouteloua linked to above):
The system will vote that the observation is not wild/naturalized if there are at least 10 other observations of a genus or lower in the smallest county-, state-, or country-equivalent place that contains this observation and 80% or more of those observations have been marked as not wild/naturalized.
The gray areas of captive/cultivated on iNat have been discussed quite a bit on the forum, so I don’t want to re-hash it them again here. You can check out other discussions on these threads: https://forum.inaturalist.org/search?q=cultivated
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Great, thanks, I’ll read the #cultivated discussion. I didn’t understand, or know about this before. Thanks!
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I have been using iNat on a basic level for over a year. I am really confused about places and projects. I changed the project I had for my property, added a new place to link it to, put in restrictions, added a kml file.
I thought that iNat would then drop all my observations that fit those restrictions, but now I have 0 observations showing.
So, I thought it must be about the places. I usually pin my observation locations, and I thought iNat would know the GPS coordinated fit into my project location.
Do I have to go through and change all those locations for my property observations? Sorry if this was covered before, I couldnt find it in the search.
Apparently, I know nothing about iNat places! Help!
Janet
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Hi Janet, welcome to the iNat Forum. Can you post links to the project and observation(s) that you expect to be included but aren’t?
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Sure.
Here is the link for one of the projects I am working on: https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/bluebonnet-acres-subdivision-wildlife-and-plants
It looks like when I am uploading images for this project and choose the pinned location of “Clear Springs Lake”, it Denotes “Wyldwood” as the location. Wyldwood is not an actual incorporated town, but it is technically where this lake is, which is within the subdivision and the boundaries I set up for my klm file.
Here is an observation ID that is not in the project named Bluebonnet Acres Subdivision:
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/65714437
I have the same problem for my own property which is within this subdivision. The observations I have made for this property are showing up under the Bluebonnet project, as they should. But, now my home property project shows ) observations.
That ID is https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/plants-and-wildlife-on-our-property-in-cedar-creek-tx.
Thanks so much for your help!
Janet
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Your project’s requirements don’t include the taxon of that observation:
Your observation is not of an animal, nor is it of a Plain Antvireo. Typo?
The location of the observation is OK, you can see it’s been indexed within the project’s place (click on details under the map), although it’s cutting it quite close:
Please see the FAQ about locality notes here. Locality notes don’t affect an observation’s place indexing. Note that you when you create a pinned location it will use whatever is in the locality notes. You can edit the locality notes before pinning a location.
I suspect it’s due to the location accuracy of your observations - they probably break the bounding box of the place’s boundary. Please see this FAQ: https://www.inaturalist.org/pages/help#placeindex You’ll have to make the accuracy circle smaller.
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Or, make the place/property boundary larger, which might be more honest if your accuracy circles are wide for a reason. Unless there are nearby properties that you really want to exclude, this might be the better option. It looks like you already restrict the project to your own observations, so neighbors who are also posting on iNaturalist shouldn’t be a problem.
A post was split to a new topic: How to filter a collection project about dragonflies for exuviae, larvae, and tenerals?
What’s the longest delay people have experienced for newly created places filling up with obs?
https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/unsw-arid-zone-research-station-fowlers-gap was made today based on this place: https://www.inaturalist.org/places/167270
Place isn’t really that big, was created almost an hour ago, still no obs showing up (and there definitely should be, e.g. https://www.inaturalist.org/places/167270)
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So far no observations are indexed as being in the place, from what I can see:
Place creation is really taxing on iNat’s infrastructure and there are pretty much always indexing delays when a new one is made.
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Newly created or indexed observations will show up there now, but older observations have not been reindexed. As a test I faved then unfaved https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/40629074 and it’s now in the project. But please don’t force reindex other observations just to get them in the project, that will just slow things down further for everyone.
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seems like everything is in there now
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I set up a Collection Project (https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/lake-claire-community-land-trust) a couple of years ago but it’s not collecting in any new observations, not even my own. I looked to see if I have a stray setting that may be excluding observations, but I don’t see any. What’s going on?
Thanks!
Sara
It’s because you’ve limited the observations to that area of land, and there are only 19 observations there: https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=161797
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Note that this is a pretty small place, and if any observations have a large accuracy circle, they won’t be indexed as being in it, which is one possible reason some observations aren’t showing up in the project. If you could provide the URL of an observation you think should be in the project but isn’t, that would be really helpful.
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https://www.inaturalist.org/projects/moths-of-missouri?tab=species
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/79726142
Collection project Missouri Lepidoptera except butterflies
The project indicates 1294 species but only returns ~500 in the grid. I think. Probably I’m missing something. If I scroll to the bottom, the last species has 5 observations, so many more species with fewer observations should be there.
500 is the maximum displayed for the explore window (they’re in the project, just not shown on the species tab); to see others, you’ll need to search for families, etc
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You can use the API to view more than 500, e.g. https://jumear.github.io/stirfry/iNatAPIv1_observations_species_counts.html?project_id=moths-of-missouri
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